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From: Jaewon Kim <jaewon31.kim@samsung.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: "jstultz@google.com" <jstultz@google.com>,
	"tjmercier@google.com" <tjmercier@google.com>,
	"sumit.semwal@linaro.org" <sumit.semwal@linaro.org>,
	"daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch" <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
	"hannes@cmpxchg.org" <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	"mhocko@kernel.org" <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"jaewon31.kim@gmail.com" <jaewon31.kim@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: [PATCH v2] dma-buf/heaps: system_heap: Avoid DoS by limiting single allocations to half of all memory
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2023 11:17:12 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230406021712epcms1p216f274040d25d18380668ffbfa809c48@epcms1p2> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230405185650.239f9721f066aa480e83d543@linux-foundation.org>

>On Thu, 06 Apr 2023 10:44:19 +0900 Jaewon Kim <jaewon31.kim@samsung.com> wrote:
>
>> >> ...
>> >>
>> >> --- a/drivers/dma-buf/heaps/system_heap.c
>> >> +++ b/drivers/dma-buf/heaps/system_heap.c
>> >> @@ -351,6 +351,9 @@ static struct dma_buf *system_heap_allocate(struct dma_heap *heap,
>> >>  	struct page *page, *tmp_page;
>> >>  	int i, ret = -ENOMEM;
>> >>  
>> >> +	if (len / PAGE_SIZE > totalram_pages() / 2)
>> >> +		return ERR_PTR(-ENOMEM);
>> >> +
>> >
>> >This seems so random.  Why ram/2 rather than ram/3 or 17*ram/35?
>> 
>> Hello
>> 
>> Thank you for your comment.
>> 
>> I just took the change from the old ion driver code, and actually I thought the
>> half of all memory is unrealistic. It could be unwanted size like negative,
>> or too big size which incurs slowness or OoM panic.
>> 
>> >
>> >Better behavior would be to try to allocate what the caller asked
>> >for and if that doesn't work out, fail gracefully after freeing the
>> >partial allocations which have been performed thus far.  If dma_buf
>> >is changed to do this then that change is useful in many scenarios other
>> >than this crazy corner case.
>> 
>> I think you would like __GFP_RETRY_MAYFAIL. Actually T.J. Mercier recommended
>> earlier, here's what we discussed.
>> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20230331005140epcms1p1ac5241f02f645e9dbc29626309a53b24@epcms1p1/
>> 
>> I just worried about a case in which we need oom kill to get more memory but
>> let me change my mind. That case seems to be rare. I think now it's time when
>> we need to make a decision and not to allow oom kill for dma-buf system heap
>> allocations.
>> 
>> But I still want to block that huge size over ram. For an unavailabe size,
>> I think, we don't have to do memory reclaim or killing processes, and we can
>> avoid freezing screen in user perspecitve.
>> 
>> This is eventually what I want. Can we check totalram_pages and and apply
>> __GFP_RETRY_MAYFAIL?
>> 
>> --- a/drivers/dma-buf/heaps/system_heap.c
>> +++ b/drivers/dma-buf/heaps/system_heap.c
>> @@ -41,7 +41,7 @@ struct dma_heap_attachment {
>>         bool mapped;
>>  };
>>  
>> -#define LOW_ORDER_GFP (GFP_HIGHUSER | __GFP_ZERO | __GFP_COMP)
>> +#define LOW_ORDER_GFP (GFP_HIGHUSER | __GFP_ZERO | __GFP_COMP | __GFP_RETRY_MAYFAIL)
>>  #define MID_ORDER_GFP (LOW_ORDER_GFP | __GFP_NOWARN)
>>  #define HIGH_ORDER_GFP  (((GFP_HIGHUSER | __GFP_ZERO | __GFP_NOWARN \
>>                                 | __GFP_NORETRY) & ~__GFP_RECLAIM) \
>> @@ -351,6 +351,9 @@ static struct dma_buf *system_heap_allocate(struct dma_heap *heap,
>>         struct page *page, *tmp_page;
>>         int i, ret = -ENOMEM;
>>  
>> +       if (len / PAGE_SIZE > totalram_pages())
>> +               return ERR_PTR(-ENOMEM);
>
>We're catering for a buggy caller here, aren't we?  Are such large
>requests ever reasonable?
>
>How about we decide what's the largest reasonable size and do a
>WARN_ON(larger-than-that), so the buggy caller gets fixed?

Yes we're considering a buggy caller. I thought even totalram_pages() / 2 in
the old ion system is also unreasonable. To avoid the /2, I changed it to
totalram_pages() though.

Because userspace can request that size repeately, I think WARN_ON() may be
called to too often, so that it would fill the kernel log buffer.

Even we think WARN_ON_ONCE rather than WARN_ON, the buggy point is not kernel
layer. Unlike page fault mechanism, this dma-buf system heap gets the size from 
userspace, and it is allowing unlimited size. I think we can't fix the buggy
user space with the kernel warning log. So I think warning is not enough,
and we need a safeguard in kernel layer.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-04-06  2:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <CGME20230406000841epcas1p3630010a770682be0f1d540a448f3e00e@epcas1p3.samsung.com>
2023-04-06  0:08 ` Jaewon Kim
2023-04-06  0:25   ` Andrew Morton
     [not found]   ` <CGME20230406000841epcas1p3630010a770682be0f1d540a448f3e00e@epcms1p3>
2023-04-06  1:44     ` Jaewon Kim
2023-04-06  1:56       ` Andrew Morton
     [not found]       ` <CGME20230406000841epcas1p3630010a770682be0f1d540a448f3e00e@epcms1p2>
2023-04-06  2:17         ` Jaewon Kim [this message]
2023-04-06  3:09           ` Andrew Morton
2023-04-06  4:24             ` John Stultz
2023-04-06 23:27               ` T.J. Mercier
2023-04-06 23:38                 ` Andrew Morton
2023-04-07  0:00                   ` T.J. Mercier
     [not found]                   ` <CGME20230406000841epcas1p3630010a770682be0f1d540a448f3e00e@epcms1p4>
2023-04-07  2:24                     ` Jaewon Kim
2023-04-07  5:12                       ` T.J. Mercier
2023-04-07 13:03         ` Jaewon Kim
2023-04-06  3:46     ` 김재원

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