From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: jaewon31.kim@samsung.com
Cc: "jstultz@google.com" <jstultz@google.com>,
"tjmercier@google.com" <tjmercier@google.com>,
"sumit.semwal@linaro.org" <sumit.semwal@linaro.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] dma-buf/heaps: system_heap: Avoid DoS by limiting single allocations to half of all memory
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2023 20:09:23 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230405200923.9b0dca2165ef3335a0f6b112@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230406021712epcms1p216f274040d25d18380668ffbfa809c48@epcms1p2>
On Thu, 06 Apr 2023 11:17:12 +0900 Jaewon Kim <jaewon31.kim@samsung.com> wrote:
> >> + if (len / PAGE_SIZE > totalram_pages())
> >> + return ERR_PTR(-ENOMEM);
> >
> >We're catering for a buggy caller here, aren't we? Are such large
> >requests ever reasonable?
> >
> >How about we decide what's the largest reasonable size and do a
> >WARN_ON(larger-than-that), so the buggy caller gets fixed?
>
> Yes we're considering a buggy caller. I thought even totalram_pages() / 2 in
> the old ion system is also unreasonable. To avoid the /2, I changed it to
> totalram_pages() though.
>
> Because userspace can request that size repeately, I think WARN_ON() may be
> called to too often, so that it would fill the kernel log buffer.
Oh geeze. I trust that userspace needs elevated privileges of some form?
If so, then spamming dmesg isn't an issue - root can do much worse than
that.
> Even we think WARN_ON_ONCE rather than WARN_ON, the buggy point is not kernel
> layer. Unlike page fault mechanism, this dma-buf system heap gets the size from
> userspace, and it is allowing unlimited size. I think we can't fix the buggy
> user space with the kernel warning log. So I think warning is not enough,
> and we need a safeguard in kernel layer.
I really dislike that ram/2 thing - it's so arbitrary, hence is surely
wrong for all cases. Is there something more thoughtful we can do?
I mean, top priority here is to inform userspace that it's buggy so
that it gets fixed (assuming this requires elevated privileges). And
userspace which requests (totalram_pages()/2 - 1) bytes is still buggy,
but we did nothing to get the bug fixed.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-04-06 3:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <CGME20230406000841epcas1p3630010a770682be0f1d540a448f3e00e@epcas1p3.samsung.com>
2023-04-06 0:08 ` Jaewon Kim
2023-04-06 0:25 ` Andrew Morton
[not found] ` <CGME20230406000841epcas1p3630010a770682be0f1d540a448f3e00e@epcms1p3>
2023-04-06 1:44 ` Jaewon Kim
2023-04-06 1:56 ` Andrew Morton
[not found] ` <CGME20230406000841epcas1p3630010a770682be0f1d540a448f3e00e@epcms1p2>
2023-04-06 2:17 ` Jaewon Kim
2023-04-06 3:09 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2023-04-06 4:24 ` John Stultz
2023-04-06 23:27 ` T.J. Mercier
2023-04-06 23:38 ` Andrew Morton
2023-04-07 0:00 ` T.J. Mercier
[not found] ` <CGME20230406000841epcas1p3630010a770682be0f1d540a448f3e00e@epcms1p4>
2023-04-07 2:24 ` Jaewon Kim
2023-04-07 5:12 ` T.J. Mercier
2023-04-07 13:03 ` Jaewon Kim
2023-04-06 3:46 ` 김재원
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