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From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/5] block: Add support for bouncing pinned pages
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2023 15:59:52 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230215045952.GF2825702@dread.disaster.area> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230214135604.s5bygnthq7an5eoo@quack3>

On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 02:56:04PM +0100, Jan Kara wrote:
> On Mon 13-02-23 01:59:28, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > Eww.  The block bounc code really needs to go away, so a new user
> > makes me very unhappy.
> > 
> > But independent of that I don't think this is enough anyway.  Just
> > copying the data out into a new page in the block layer doesn't solve
> > the problem that this page needs to be tracked as dirtied for fs
> > accounting.  e.g. every time we write this copy it needs space allocated
> > for COW file systems.
> 
> Right, I forgot about this in my RFC. My original plan was to not clear the
> dirty bit in clear_page_dirty_for_io() even for WB_SYNC_ALL writeback when
> we do writeback the page and perhaps indicate this in the return value of
> clear_page_dirty_for_io() so that the COW filesystem can keep tracking this
> page as dirty.

I don't think this works, especially if the COW mechanism relies on
delayed allocation to prevent ENOSPC during writeback. That is, we
need a write() or page fault (to run ->page_mkwrite()) after every
call to folio_clear_dirty_for_io() in the writeback path to ensure
that new space is reserved for the allocation that will occur
during a future writeback of that page.

Hence we can't just leave the page dirty on COW filesystems - it has
to go through a clean state so that the clean->dirty event can be
gated on gaining the space reservation that allows it to be written
back again.

Cheers,

Dave.

-- 
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com


  reply	other threads:[~2023-02-15  5:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-09 12:31 [PATCH RFC 0/5] Writeback handling of " Jan Kara
2023-02-09 12:31 ` [PATCH 1/5] mm: Do not reclaim private data from pinned page Jan Kara
2023-02-09 16:17   ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-02-10 11:29     ` Jan Kara
2023-02-13  9:55       ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-02-14 13:06         ` Jan Kara
2023-02-14 21:40           ` John Hubbard
2023-02-16 11:56             ` Jan Kara
2023-02-13  9:01   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-02-14 13:00     ` Jan Kara
2023-02-09 12:31 ` [PATCH 2/5] ext4: Drop workaround for mm reclaiming fs private page data Jan Kara
2023-02-09 12:31 ` [PATCH 3/5] mm: Do not try to write pinned folio during memory cleaning writeback Jan Kara
2023-02-10  1:54   ` John Hubbard
2023-02-10  2:10     ` John Hubbard
2023-02-10 10:42       ` Jan Kara
2023-02-10 10:54     ` Jan Kara
2023-02-09 12:31 ` [PATCH 4/5] block: Add support for bouncing pinned pages Jan Kara
2023-02-13  9:59   ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-02-14 13:56     ` Jan Kara
2023-02-15  4:59       ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2023-02-15  6:24         ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-02-16 12:33           ` Jan Kara
2023-02-20  6:22             ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-02-27 11:39               ` Jan Kara
2023-02-27 13:36                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-02-09 12:31 ` [PATCH 5/5] iomap: Bounce pinned pages during writeback Jan Kara

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