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From: Hillf Danton <hdanton@sina.com>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	"Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Sanan Hasanov <sanan.hasanov@knights.ucf.edu>,
	"akpm@linux-foundation.org" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"syzkaller@googlegroups.com" <syzkaller@googlegroups.com>,
	Huang Ying <ying.huang@intel.com>
Subject: Re: kernel BUG in page_add_anon_rmap
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2023 09:16:46 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230131011646.167-1-hdanton@sina.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y9fsTqMPzi9EIUKH@casper.infradead.org>

On Mon, 30 Jan 2023 16:11:58 +0000 Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
> On Sat, Jan 28, 2023 at 10:49:31PM -0800, Hugh Dickins wrote:
> > I guess it will turn out not to be relevant to this particular syzbug,
> > but what do we expect an mbind() of just 0x1000 of a THP to do?
> > 
> > It's a subject I've wrestled with unsuccessfully in the past: I found
> > myself arriving at one conclusion (split THP) in one place, and a contrary
> > conclusion (widen range) in another place, and never had time to work out
> > one unified answer.
> > 
> > So I do wonder what pte replaces the migration entry when the bug here
> > is fixed: is it a pte pointing into the THP as before, in which case
> > what was the point of "migration"? is it a Copy-On-Bind page?
> > or has the whole THP been migrated?
> 
> I have an Opinion!
> 
> The important thing about THP (IMO) is the Transparency part.
> Applications don't need to do anything special to get memory managed
> in larger chunks, the only difference is in performance.  That is, they
> get better performance if the kernel can do it, and thinks it worthwhile.
> 
> The tradeoff with THP is that we treat all memory in this 2MB chunk the
> same way; we track its dirtiness and age as a single thing (position
> on LRU, etc).  That assumes we're doing no harm, or less harm than we
> would be tracking each page independently.
> 
> If userspace gives us a hint like "I want this range of memory on that
> node", that's a strong signal that *this* range of memory is considered
> by userspace to be a single unit.  So my opinion is that userspace is
> letting us know that we previously made a bad decision and we should
> rectify it by splitting now.

Apart from MADV_HUGEPAGE, what do you need wrt tracking THP and splitting it?


  reply	other threads:[~2023-01-31  1:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-25 23:59 Sanan Hasanov
2023-01-26  0:13 ` Andrew Morton
2023-01-26 18:57 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-01-26 19:00   ` Sanan Hasanov
2023-01-27 11:44   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-01-27 17:02     ` Hugh Dickins
2023-01-29  6:49       ` Hugh Dickins
2023-01-30  9:03         ` David Hildenbrand
2023-01-30  9:26           ` David Hildenbrand
2023-01-30 16:11         ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-01-31  1:16           ` Hillf Danton [this message]
2023-01-30 19:20         ` Yang Shi
2023-01-30 19:26         ` Liam R. Howlett

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