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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
To: Yang Shi <shy828301@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [QUESTION] Linux memory model: control dependency with bitfield
Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2023 09:31:55 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230109173155.GS4028633@paulmck-ThinkPad-P17-Gen-1> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHbLzkqtxq4JgSJVOf2rH3fuNAk50UsK7xNVY49eEpyngcwLvw@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jan 09, 2023 at 09:14:19AM -0800, Yang Shi wrote:
> Hi Paul,
> 
> Hope this email finds you are doing well. I recently ran into a
> problem which might be related to control dependency of the memory
> model. Conceptually, the code does (from copy_present_pte()):
> 
> acquire mmap_lock
> spin_lock
> ...
> clear bit (a bit in page flags)
> ...
> VM_BUG_ON(test bit)
> ...
> spin_unlock
> release mmap_lock
> 
> 
> IIUC there is control dependency between the "clear bit" and
> "VM_BUG_ON" since VM_BUG_ON simply tests the bit then raises the BUG.
> They do touch the overlapping address (the page flags from the same
> struct page), but they are bit field operations. Per the memory model
> documentation, the order is not guaranteed for bit field operations
> IIRC.
> 
> And there are not any implicit barriers between clear bit and test
> bit, so the question is whether an explicit barrier, for example,
> smp_mb__after_atomic() is required after clear bit to guarantee it
> works as expected?

I am not familiar with this code, so I will stick with LKMM
clarifications.

First, please don't forget any protection and ordering that might be
provided by the two locks held across this code.

Second, a control dependency extends from a READ_ONCE() or stronger
(clear_bit() included) to a later store.  Please note "store", not
"load".  If you need to order an earlier READ_ONCE() or clear_bit()
with a later load, you will need acquire semantics (smp_load_acquire(),
for example) or an explicit barrier such as smp_rmb().  Use of acquire
semantics almost always gets you code that is more readable.

Does that help?

Also CCing linux-mm@kvack.org in case someone with better understanding
of that code has advice.

							Thanx, Paul


       reply	other threads:[~2023-01-09 17:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <CAHbLzkqtxq4JgSJVOf2rH3fuNAk50UsK7xNVY49eEpyngcwLvw@mail.gmail.com>
2023-01-09 17:31 ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2023-01-09 22:08   ` Yang Shi
2023-01-09 23:11     ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-01-09 23:44       ` Yang Shi
2023-01-10  0:04         ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-01-12  0:01           ` Yang Shi
2023-01-12  0:15             ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-01-14  2:37               ` Yang Shi
2023-01-14  4:15                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-01-17 21:28                   ` Yang Shi
2023-01-18  3:57                     ` Paul E. McKenney

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