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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Nhat Pham <nphamcs@gmail.com>
Cc: hannes@cmpxchg.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, bfoster@redhat.com,
	willy@infradead.org, kernel-team@meta.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 3/4] cachestat: implement cachestat syscall
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2022 13:48:14 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20221216134814.61c8d5119ceb4179c68e1cd7@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20221216192149.3902877-4-nphamcs@gmail.com>

On Fri, 16 Dec 2022 11:21:48 -0800 Nhat Pham <nphamcs@gmail.com> wrote:

> Implement a new syscall that queries cache state of a file and
> summarizes the number of cached pages, number of dirty pages, number of
> pages marked for writeback, number of (recently) evicted pages, etc. in
> a given range.
> 
> NAME
>     cachestat - query the page cache status of a file.
> 
> SYNOPSIS
>     #include <sys/mman.h>
> 
>     struct cachestat {
>         __u64 nr_cache;
>         __u64 nr_dirty;
>         __u64 nr_writeback;
>         __u64 nr_evicted;
>         __u64 nr_recently_evicted;
>     };
> 
>     int cachestat(unsigned int fd, off_t off, size_t len,
>           size_t cstat_size, struct cachestat *cstat,
>           unsigned int flags);
> 
> DESCRIPTION
>     cachestat() queries the number of cached pages, number of dirty
>     pages, number of pages marked for writeback, number of (recently)
>     evicted pages, in the bytes range given by `off` and `len`.

I suggest this be spelled out better: "number of evicted and number or
recently evicted pages".

I suggest this clearly tell readers what an "evicted" page is - they
aren't kernel programmers!

What is the benefit of the "recently evicted" pages?  "recently" seems
very vague - what use is this to anyone?

>     These values are returned in a cachestat struct, whose address is
>     given by the `cstat` argument.
> 
>     The `off` and `len` arguments must be non-negative integers. If
>     `len` > 0, the queried range is [`off`, `off` + `len`]. If `len` ==
>     0, we will query in the range from `off` to the end of the file.
> 
>     `cstat_size` allows users to obtain partial results. The syscall
>     will copy the first `csstat_size` bytes to the specified userspace
>     memory. `cstat_size` must be a non-negative value that is no larger
>     than the current size of the cachestat struct.
> 
>     The `flags` argument is unused for now, but is included for future
>     extensibility. User should pass 0 (i.e no flag specified).

Why is `flags' here?  We could add an unused flags arg to any syscall,
but we don't.  What's the plan?


Are there security implications?  If I know that some process has a
file open, I can use cachestat() to infer which parts of that file
they're looking at (like mincore(), I guess).  And I can infer which
parts they're writing to, unlike mincore().


I suggest the [patch 1/4] fixup be separated from this series.




  reply	other threads:[~2022-12-16 21:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-12-16 19:21 [PATCH v4 0/4] cachestat: a new syscall for page cache state of files Nhat Pham
2022-12-16 19:21 ` [PATCH v4 1/4] workingset: fix confusion around eviction vs refault container Nhat Pham
2022-12-16 19:21 ` [PATCH v4 2/4] workingset: refactor LRU refault to expose refault recency check Nhat Pham
2022-12-16 19:21 ` [PATCH v4 3/4] cachestat: implement cachestat syscall Nhat Pham
2022-12-16 21:48   ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2022-12-22  0:37     ` Nhat Pham
2023-01-11 18:00       ` Nhat Pham
2022-12-16 22:26   ` kernel test robot
2022-12-31  8:35     ` Nhat Pham
2022-12-16 22:46   ` kernel test robot
2022-12-16 22:46   ` kernel test robot
2022-12-17  1:58   ` kernel test robot
2022-12-20 14:37   ` Brian Foster
2022-12-22 21:50     ` Nhat Pham
2023-01-03 18:43       ` Brian Foster
2023-01-04 14:18         ` Nhat Pham
2022-12-16 19:21 ` [PATCH v4 4/4] selftests: Add selftests for cachestat Nhat Pham

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