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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: rcu@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	kernel-team@meta.com, rostedt@goodmis.org,
	"Joel Fernandes (Google)" <joel@joelfernandes.org>,
	Dennis Zhou <dennis@kernel.org>, Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH rcu 12/16] percpu-refcount: Use call_rcu_hurry() for atomic switch
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2022 13:44:02 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20221130214402.GV4001@paulmck-ThinkPad-P17-Gen-1> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y4eycHpdYz7aoq10@slm.duckdns.org>

On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 09:43:44AM -1000, Tejun Heo wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 10:13:21AM -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > From: "Joel Fernandes (Google)" <joel@joelfernandes.org>
> > 
> > Earlier commits in this series allow battery-powered systems to build
> > their kernels with the default-disabled CONFIG_RCU_LAZY=y Kconfig option.
> > This Kconfig option causes call_rcu() to delay its callbacks in order to
> > batch callbacks.  This means that a given RCU grace period covers more
> > callbacks, thus reducing the number of grace periods, in turn reducing
> > the amount of energy consumed, which increases battery lifetime which
> > can be a very good thing.  This is not a subtle effect: In some important
> > use cases, the battery lifetime is increased by more than 10%.
> > 
> > This CONFIG_RCU_LAZY=y option is available only for CPUs that offload
> > callbacks, for example, CPUs mentioned in the rcu_nocbs kernel boot
> > parameter passed to kernels built with CONFIG_RCU_NOCB_CPU=y.
> > 
> > Delaying callbacks is normally not a problem because most callbacks do
> > nothing but free memory.  If the system is short on memory, a shrinker
> > will kick all currently queued lazy callbacks out of their laziness,
> > thus freeing their memory in short order.  Similarly, the rcu_barrier()
> > function, which blocks until all currently queued callbacks are invoked,
> > will also kick lazy callbacks, thus enabling rcu_barrier() to complete
> > in a timely manner.
> > 
> > However, there are some cases where laziness is not a good option.
> > For example, synchronize_rcu() invokes call_rcu(), and blocks until
> > the newly queued callback is invoked.  It would not be a good for
> > synchronize_rcu() to block for ten seconds, even on an idle system.
> > Therefore, synchronize_rcu() invokes call_rcu_hurry() instead of
> > call_rcu().  The arrival of a non-lazy call_rcu_hurry() callback on a
> > given CPU kicks any lazy callbacks that might be already queued on that
> > CPU.  After all, if there is going to be a grace period, all callbacks
> > might as well get full benefit from it.
> > 
> > Yes, this could be done the other way around by creating a
> > call_rcu_lazy(), but earlier experience with this approach and
> > feedback at the 2022 Linux Plumbers Conference shifted the approach
> > to call_rcu() being lazy with call_rcu_hurry() for the few places
> > where laziness is inappropriate.
> > 
> > And another call_rcu() instance that cannot be lazy is the one on the
> > percpu refcounter's "per-CPU to atomic switch" code path, which
> > uses RCU when switching to atomic mode.  The enqueued callback
> > wakes up waiters waiting in the percpu_ref_switch_waitq.  Allowing
> > this callback to be lazy would result in unacceptable slowdowns for
> > users of per-CPU refcounts, such as blk_pre_runtime_suspend().
> > 
> > Therefore, make __percpu_ref_switch_to_atomic() use call_rcu_hurry()
> > in order to revert to the old behavior.
> > 
> > [ paulmck: Apply s/call_rcu_flush/call_rcu_hurry/ feedback from Tejun Heo. ]
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Joel Fernandes (Google) <joel@joelfernandes.org>
> > Signed-off-by: Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@kernel.org>
> > Cc: Dennis Zhou <dennis@kernel.org>
> > Cc: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
> > Cc: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>
> > Cc: <linux-mm@kvack.org>
> 
> Acked-by: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>

I applied both, thank you very much!

							Thanx, Paul


      reply	other threads:[~2022-11-30 21:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20221130181316.GA1012431@paulmck-ThinkPad-P17-Gen-1>
2022-11-30 18:13 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-11-30 18:19   ` Joel Fernandes
2022-11-30 19:43   ` Tejun Heo
2022-11-30 21:44     ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]

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