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From: Jacob Pan <jacob.jun.pan@intel.com>
To: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>
Cc: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>,
	Ashok Raj <ashok_raj@linux.intel.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>, <x86@kernel.org>,
	Kostya Serebryany <kcc@google.com>,
	Andrey Ryabinin <ryabinin.a.a@gmail.com>,
	Andrey Konovalov <andreyknvl@gmail.com>,
	Alexander Potapenko <glider@google.com>,
	Taras Madan <tarasmadan@google.com>,
	Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>,
	"H . J . Lu" <hjl.tools@gmail.com>,
	Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
	Rick Edgecombe <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>, <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Ashok Raj <ashok.raj@intel.com>,
	jacob.jun.pan@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCHv8 00/11] Linear Address Masking enabling
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2022 17:08:09 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220912170809.101fa976@jacob-builder> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220912224930.ukakmmwumchyacqc@box.shutemov.name>

Hi Kirill,

On Tue, 13 Sep 2022 01:49:30 +0300, "Kirill A. Shutemov"
<kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Sep 04, 2022 at 03:39:52AM +0300, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 01, 2022 at 05:45:08PM +0000, Ashok Raj wrote:  
> > > Hi Kirill,
> > > 
> > > On Tue, Aug 30, 2022 at 04:00:53AM +0300, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote:  
> > > > Linear Address Masking[1] (LAM) modifies the checking that is
> > > > applied to 64-bit linear addresses, allowing software to use of the
> > > > untranslated address bits for metadata.  
> > > 
> > > We discussed this internally, but didn't bubble up here.
> > > 
> > > Given that we are working on enabling Shared Virtual Addressing (SVA)
> > > within the IOMMU. This permits user to share VA directly with the
> > > device, and the device can participate even in fixing page-faults and
> > > such.
> > > 
> > > IOMMU enforces canonical addressing, since we are hijacking the top
> > > order bits for meta-data, it will fail sanity check and we would
> > > return a failure back to device on any page-faults from device. 
> > > 
> > > It also complicates how device TLB and ATS work, and needs some major
> > > improvements to detect device capability to accept tagged pointers,
> > > adjust the devtlb to act accordingly. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Both are orthogonal features, but there is an intersection of both
> > > that are fundamentally incompatible.
> > > 
> > > Its even more important, since an application might be using SVA
> > > under the cover provided by some library that's used without their
> > > knowledge.
> > > 
> > > The path would be:
> > > 
> > > 1. Ensure both LAM and SVM are incompatible by design, without major
> > >    changes.
> > >    	- If LAM is enabled already and later SVM enabling is
> > > requested by user, that should fail. and Vice versa.
> > > 	- Provide an API to user to ask for opt-out. Now they know
> > > they must sanitize the pointers before sending to device, or the
> > > 	  working set is already isolated and needs no work.  
> > 
> > The patch below implements something like this. It is PoC, build-tested
> > only.
> > 
> > To be honest, I hate it. It is clearly a layering violation. It feels
> > dirty. But I don't see any better way as we tie orthogonal features
> > together.
> > 
> > Also I have no idea how to make forced PASID allocation if LAM enabled.
> > What the API has to look like?  
> 
> Jacob, Ashok, any comment on this part?
> 
> I expect in many cases LAM will be enabled very early (like before malloc
> is functinal) in process start and it makes PASID allocation always fail.
> 
Is there a generic flag LAM can set on the mm?

We can't check x86 feature in IOMMU SVA API. i.e. 
 
@@ -32,6 +33,15 @@ int iommu_sva_alloc_pasid(struct mm_struct *mm, ioasid_t min, ioasid_t max)
 		return -EINVAL;
 
 	mutex_lock(&iommu_sva_lock);
+
+	/* Serialize against LAM enabling */
+	mutex_lock(&mm->context.lock);
+
+	if (mm_lam_cr3_mask(mm)) {
+		ret = -EBUSY;
+		goto out;
+	}
+

> Any way out?
> 


Thanks,

Jacob


  reply	other threads:[~2022-09-13  0:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-30  1:00 Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-08-30  1:00 ` [PATCHv8 01/11] x86/mm: Fix CR3_ADDR_MASK Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-08-30  1:00 ` [PATCHv8 02/11] x86: CPUID and CR3/CR4 flags for Linear Address Masking Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-08-30  1:00 ` [PATCHv8 03/11] mm: Pass down mm_struct to untagged_addr() Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-08-30  1:00 ` [PATCHv8 04/11] x86/mm: Handle LAM on context switch Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-08-30  1:00 ` [PATCHv8 05/11] x86/uaccess: Provide untagged_addr() and remove tags before address check Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-08-30  1:00 ` [PATCHv8 06/11] x86/mm: Provide arch_prctl() interface for LAM Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-08-30  1:01 ` [PATCHv8 07/11] x86: Expose untagging mask in /proc/$PID/arch_status Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-08-30  1:01 ` [PATCHv8 08/11] selftests/x86/lam: Add malloc and tag-bits test cases for linear-address masking Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-08-30  1:01 ` [PATCHv8 09/11] selftests/x86/lam: Add mmap and SYSCALL " Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-07  3:19   ` Robert Hoo
2022-09-09 11:24     ` Zhang, Weihong
2022-08-30  1:01 ` [PATCHv8 10/11] selftests/x86/lam: Add io_uring " Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-08-30  1:01 ` [PATCHv8 11/11] selftests/x86/lam: Add inherit " Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-01 17:45 ` [PATCHv8 00/11] Linear Address Masking enabling Ashok Raj
2022-09-04  0:39   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-09 16:08     ` Ashok Raj
2022-09-12 20:39       ` Jacob Pan
2022-09-12 21:41         ` Dave Hansen
2022-09-12 22:55           ` Jacob Pan
2022-09-13  0:06             ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-13  0:23           ` Ashok Raj
2022-09-12 22:49     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-13  0:08       ` Jacob Pan [this message]
2022-09-13  0:18         ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-14 14:45       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-14 15:11         ` Ashok Raj
2022-09-14 15:18           ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-14 15:31             ` Ashok Raj
2022-09-14 15:45               ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-14 23:51                 ` Jacob Pan
2022-09-15  9:01                   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-15 17:28                     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-20 13:14                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-20 14:57                         ` Ashok Raj
2022-09-20 16:06                         ` Dave Hansen
2022-09-20 16:27                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-20 18:41                             ` Jacob Pan
2022-09-20 18:50                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-20 20:44                                 ` Jacob Pan
2022-09-21  0:01                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-21  9:36                       ` Tian, Kevin
2022-09-21 16:57                       ` Dave Hansen
2022-09-21 17:08                         ` Ashok Raj
2022-09-21 17:11                           ` Dave Hansen
2022-09-21 17:29                             ` Ashok Raj
2022-09-21 18:11                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-23  0:42                               ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-23  5:27                                 ` Ashok Raj
2022-09-23  9:38                                   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-23 11:46                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-23 14:18                                       ` Dave Hansen
2022-09-23 14:42                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-23 14:59                                           ` Ashok Raj
2022-09-23 15:28                                         ` Ashok Raj
2022-09-23 15:31                                           ` Dave Hansen
2022-09-23 15:44                                             ` Ashok Raj
2022-09-23 16:23                                               ` Dave Hansen
2022-09-23 16:44                                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-04  1:00 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-05  5:05   ` Bharata B Rao
2022-09-05 13:44     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-05 14:30       ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-09-05 15:35         ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-05 15:46           ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-09-05 16:47             ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-06  8:39               ` Peter Zijlstra

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