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From: Jacob Pan <jacob.jun.pan@intel.com>
To: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
Cc: Ashok Raj <ashok_raj@linux.intel.com>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>, <x86@kernel.org>,
	Kostya Serebryany <kcc@google.com>,
	Andrey Ryabinin <ryabinin.a.a@gmail.com>,
	Andrey Konovalov <andreyknvl@gmail.com>,
	"Alexander Potapenko" <glider@google.com>,
	Taras Madan <tarasmadan@google.com>,
	"Dmitry Vyukov" <dvyukov@google.com>,
	"H . J . Lu" <hjl.tools@gmail.com>,
	Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
	Rick Edgecombe <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>, <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Ashok Raj <ashok.raj@intel.com>,
	jacob.jun.pan@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCHv8 00/11] Linear Address Masking enabling
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2022 15:55:02 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220912155502.0087a993@jacob-builder> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <356d4ad1-f7d8-b8ff-3b63-819a64bf5b9f@intel.com>

Hi Dave,

On Mon, 12 Sep 2022 14:41:56 -0700, Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
wrote:

> On 9/12/22 13:39, Jacob Pan wrote:
> >>> +	if (pasid_valid(mm->pasid) && !forced) {  
> > I don't think this works since we have lazy pasid free.  for example,
> > after all the devices did sva_unbind, mm->pasid  we'll remain valid
> > until mmdrop(). LAM  should be supported in this case.  
> 
> Nah, it works fine.
> It just means that the rules are "you can't do LAM if your process
> *EVER* got a PASID" instead of "you can't do LAM if you are actively
> using your PASID".
Sure it works if you change the rules, but this case need to documented.

> 
> We knew that PASID use would be a one-way trip for a process when we
> moved to the simplified implementation.  This is just more fallout from
> that.  It's fine.
> 
Is LAM also a one-way trip?

> > Perhaps, we could introduce another prctl flag for SVA, PR_GET_SVA?
> > Both iommu driver and LAM can set/query the flag. LAM applications may
> > not be the only ones want to know if share virtual addressing is  on.  
> 
> I don't think it's a good idea to add yet more UABI around this issue.
> Won't the IOMMU folks eventually get their hardware in line with LAM?
> Isn't this situation temporary?


Thanks,

Jacob


  reply	other threads:[~2022-09-12 22:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-30  1:00 Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-08-30  1:00 ` [PATCHv8 01/11] x86/mm: Fix CR3_ADDR_MASK Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-08-30  1:00 ` [PATCHv8 02/11] x86: CPUID and CR3/CR4 flags for Linear Address Masking Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-08-30  1:00 ` [PATCHv8 03/11] mm: Pass down mm_struct to untagged_addr() Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-08-30  1:00 ` [PATCHv8 04/11] x86/mm: Handle LAM on context switch Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-08-30  1:00 ` [PATCHv8 05/11] x86/uaccess: Provide untagged_addr() and remove tags before address check Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-08-30  1:00 ` [PATCHv8 06/11] x86/mm: Provide arch_prctl() interface for LAM Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-08-30  1:01 ` [PATCHv8 07/11] x86: Expose untagging mask in /proc/$PID/arch_status Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-08-30  1:01 ` [PATCHv8 08/11] selftests/x86/lam: Add malloc and tag-bits test cases for linear-address masking Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-08-30  1:01 ` [PATCHv8 09/11] selftests/x86/lam: Add mmap and SYSCALL " Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-07  3:19   ` Robert Hoo
2022-09-09 11:24     ` Zhang, Weihong
2022-08-30  1:01 ` [PATCHv8 10/11] selftests/x86/lam: Add io_uring " Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-08-30  1:01 ` [PATCHv8 11/11] selftests/x86/lam: Add inherit " Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-01 17:45 ` [PATCHv8 00/11] Linear Address Masking enabling Ashok Raj
2022-09-04  0:39   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-09 16:08     ` Ashok Raj
2022-09-12 20:39       ` Jacob Pan
2022-09-12 21:41         ` Dave Hansen
2022-09-12 22:55           ` Jacob Pan [this message]
2022-09-13  0:06             ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-13  0:23           ` Ashok Raj
2022-09-12 22:49     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-13  0:08       ` Jacob Pan
2022-09-13  0:18         ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-14 14:45       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-14 15:11         ` Ashok Raj
2022-09-14 15:18           ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-14 15:31             ` Ashok Raj
2022-09-14 15:45               ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-14 23:51                 ` Jacob Pan
2022-09-15  9:01                   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-15 17:28                     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-20 13:14                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-20 14:57                         ` Ashok Raj
2022-09-20 16:06                         ` Dave Hansen
2022-09-20 16:27                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-20 18:41                             ` Jacob Pan
2022-09-20 18:50                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-20 20:44                                 ` Jacob Pan
2022-09-21  0:01                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-21  9:36                       ` Tian, Kevin
2022-09-21 16:57                       ` Dave Hansen
2022-09-21 17:08                         ` Ashok Raj
2022-09-21 17:11                           ` Dave Hansen
2022-09-21 17:29                             ` Ashok Raj
2022-09-21 18:11                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-23  0:42                               ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-23  5:27                                 ` Ashok Raj
2022-09-23  9:38                                   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-23 11:46                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-23 14:18                                       ` Dave Hansen
2022-09-23 14:42                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-23 14:59                                           ` Ashok Raj
2022-09-23 15:28                                         ` Ashok Raj
2022-09-23 15:31                                           ` Dave Hansen
2022-09-23 15:44                                             ` Ashok Raj
2022-09-23 16:23                                               ` Dave Hansen
2022-09-23 16:44                                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-04  1:00 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-05  5:05   ` Bharata B Rao
2022-09-05 13:44     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-05 14:30       ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-09-05 15:35         ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-05 15:46           ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-09-05 16:47             ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-06  8:39               ` Peter Zijlstra

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