From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from kanga.kvack.org (kanga.kvack.org [205.233.56.17]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A73FC54EE9 for ; Wed, 7 Sep 2022 13:44:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by kanga.kvack.org (Postfix) id 8FE918D0002; Wed, 7 Sep 2022 09:44:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: by kanga.kvack.org (Postfix, from userid 40) id 8ADF76B0073; Wed, 7 Sep 2022 09:44:45 -0400 (EDT) X-Delivered-To: int-list-linux-mm@kvack.org Received: by kanga.kvack.org (Postfix, from userid 63042) id 775938D0002; Wed, 7 Sep 2022 09:44:45 -0400 (EDT) X-Delivered-To: linux-mm@kvack.org Received: from relay.hostedemail.com (smtprelay0017.hostedemail.com [216.40.44.17]) by kanga.kvack.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65B826B0072 for ; Wed, 7 Sep 2022 09:44:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpin11.hostedemail.com (a10.router.float.18 [10.200.18.1]) by unirelay06.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 411DDAB9F5 for ; Wed, 7 Sep 2022 13:44:45 +0000 (UTC) X-FDA: 79885409730.11.10ECCF6 Received: from dfw.source.kernel.org (dfw.source.kernel.org [139.178.84.217]) by imf19.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2DA71A005A for ; Wed, 7 Sep 2022 13:44:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.kernel.org (relay.kernel.org [52.25.139.140]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by dfw.source.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E4F50618F6; Wed, 7 Sep 2022 13:44:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3E8F1C433C1; Wed, 7 Sep 2022 13:44:38 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2022 09:45:18 -0400 From: Steven Rostedt To: Kent Overstreet Cc: Michal Hocko , Suren Baghdasaryan , Mel Gorman , Peter Zijlstra , Andrew Morton , Vlastimil Babka , Johannes Weiner , Roman Gushchin , Davidlohr Bueso , Matthew Wilcox , "Liam R. Howlett" , David Vernet , Juri Lelli , Laurent Dufour , Peter Xu , David Hildenbrand , Jens Axboe , mcgrof@kernel.org, masahiroy@kernel.org, nathan@kernel.org, changbin.du@intel.com, ytcoode@gmail.com, Vincent Guittot , Dietmar Eggemann , Benjamin Segall , Daniel Bristot de Oliveira , Valentin Schneider , Christopher Lameter , Pekka Enberg , Joonsoo Kim , 42.hyeyoo@gmail.com, Alexander Potapenko , Marco Elver , Dmitry Vyukov , Shakeel Butt , Muchun Song , arnd@arndb.de, jbaron@akamai.com, David Rientjes , Minchan Kim , Kalesh Singh , kernel-team , linux-mm , iommu@lists.linux.dev, kasan-dev@googlegroups.com, io-uring@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org, linux-bcache@vger.kernel.org, linux-modules@vger.kernel.org, LKML Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 00/30] Code tagging framework and applications Message-ID: <20220907094306.3383dac2@gandalf.local.home> In-Reply-To: <20220907130323.rwycrntnckc6h43n@kmo-framework> References: <20220901201502.sn6223bayzwferxv@moria.home.lan> <20220905234649.525vorzx27ybypsn@kmo-framework> <20220906182058.iijmpzu4rtxowy37@kmo-framework> <20220907130323.rwycrntnckc6h43n@kmo-framework> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.8 (GTK+ 2.24.33; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ARC-Seal: i=1; s=arc-20220608; d=hostedemail.com; t=1662558285; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=Lxczf4gGyONPl2bc6jvExwHhzDGFahu3iJUMxmvc+aLgn9VWhlOuZ8qGh+83VBoi8up/ad NcFbWq8Sv4HD2UHzJWJZ2zVHzG4PeGAvT4eqniKHnfEtossPaZlgf9jg5tddJBTNhdb0Ci Yh+Qn6b0LaxQduZDamI1c0xQ+08QaIE= ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; imf19.hostedemail.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (imf19.hostedemail.com: domain of "SRS0=5krg=ZK=goodmis.org=rostedt@kernel.org" designates 139.178.84.217 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="SRS0=5krg=ZK=goodmis.org=rostedt@kernel.org" ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=hostedemail.com; s=arc-20220608; t=1662558285; h=from:from:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=WUoA1jKleDNFlK22FgBPSfNN6dcxZ8lc0wOpbdzGBxc=; b=DWYuy+Ch0GSX7CTHPS6vh1QrKtrUt3KmoLQROjqT0PmYwpDyGQo02RUrHnOeYj1ir2Ttf5 JjRnXe0gRytlkg2S29dtv6b6u2X3htoDeoyyDtVIumdsMIwoeU9vQssiYaQMbDSrLIRnPV yv/KFY8i8bo7oKfuiZoF2+IHC/gYPjs= X-Rspamd-Server: rspam07 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: F2DA71A005A Authentication-Results: imf19.hostedemail.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (imf19.hostedemail.com: domain of "SRS0=5krg=ZK=goodmis.org=rostedt@kernel.org" designates 139.178.84.217 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="SRS0=5krg=ZK=goodmis.org=rostedt@kernel.org" X-Stat-Signature: zbjgjrphhod4sxrxir5jp53wo15ydzxw X-Rspam-User: X-HE-Tag: 1662558284-563422 X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.2.4 Sender: owner-linux-mm@kvack.org Precedence: bulk X-Loop: owner-majordomo@kvack.org List-ID: On Wed, 7 Sep 2022 09:04:28 -0400 Kent Overstreet wrote: > On Wed, Sep 07, 2022 at 01:00:09PM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote: > > Hmm, it seems that further discussion doesn't really make much sense > > here. I know how to use my time better. > > Just a thought, but I generally find it more productive to propose ideas than to > just be disparaging. > But it's not Michal's job to do so. He's just telling you that the given feature is not worth the burden. He's telling you the issues that he has with the patch set. It's the submitter's job to address those concerns and not the maintainer's to tell you how to make it better. When Linus tells us that a submission is crap, we don't ask him how to make it less crap, we listen to why he called it crap, and then rewrite to be not so crappy. If we cannot figure it out, it doesn't get in. -- Steve