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From: Kent Overstreet <kent.overstreet@gmail.com>
To: Rasmus Villemoes <linux@rasmusvillemoes.dk>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	pmladek@suse.com, rostedt@goodmis.org, enozhatsky@chromium.org,
	willy@infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 05/34] vsprintf: %pf(%p)
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2022 03:51:59 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220621075159.m67qzftqulvphivw@moria.home.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f9224687-ce0c-b41b-f158-1b679a70c2d5@rasmusvillemoes.dk>

On Tue, Jun 21, 2022 at 09:04:38AM +0200, Rasmus Villemoes wrote:
> On 20/06/2022 02.42, Kent Overstreet wrote:
> > +Note that a pretty-printer may not sleep, if called from printk(). If called
> > +from pr_buf() or sprintf() there are no such restrictions.
> 
> I know what you're trying to say, but if the sprintf() call itself is
> from a non-sleepable context this is obviously not true. So please just
> make the rule "A pretty-printer must not sleep.". That's much simpler
> and less error-prone. Otherwise I guarantee you that somebody is going
> to add a sleeping pretty-printer for their own need, use it in a couple
> of safe places, and then somebody wants to add a printk() in that driver
> and sees "hey, I can get all this state dumped very easily with this
> pretty-printer".

Kernel programmers are used to having to consider the context they're in and
what the functions they're calling might do, a pretty-printer being called
indirectly via sprintf() is absolutely no different. 

> >  struct printf_spec {
> > @@ -2520,7 +2521,16 @@ int format_decode(const char *fmt, struct printf_spec *spec)
> >  		return ++fmt - start;
> >  
> >  	case 'p':
> > -		spec->type = FORMAT_TYPE_PTR;
> > +		fmt++;
> > +		if (fmt[0] == 'f' &&
> > +		    fmt[1] == '(') {
> > +			fmt += 2;
> > +			spec->type = FORMAT_TYPE_FN;
> > +		} else
> > +			spec->type = FORMAT_TYPE_PTR;
> > +		return fmt - start;
> > +	case '(':
> > +		spec->type = FORMAT_TYPE_FN;
> >  		return ++fmt - start;
> 
> NAK. Don't implement something that will never be tested nor used.
> There's not a snowball's chance in hell that we'll ever build the kernel
> without -Wformat.

We're not stopping here. Matthew is taking this to WG14 and I'll be working on
adding this functionality to glibc next, and %() is the syntax we intend to take
to the working group.

But the working group is naturally going to want to see that a working
implementation of it exists.

> Sorry, but this is way too ugly, and the prospect of at some point in
> the future invoking libffi to do something even naster... eww. We do not
> need more functions with completely generic prototypes with no
> typechecking and making it extremely hard to teach one of our static
> analyzers (smatch has some %pX checking) to do that typechecking.
> 
> There are at least two ways you can achieve this passing of a variable
> number of arguments with proper types.
> 
> (1) Each pretty-printer comes with a struct wrapping up its real
> arguments and a macro for creating a compound literal passing those
> arguments.
> 
> struct foo_pp {
>   void (*func)(struct printbuf *pb, void *ctx); /* always first */
>   int x;
>   long y;
> };
> void foo_pp(struct printbuf *pb, void *ctx)
> {
>   struct foo_pp *f = ctx;
>   pr_printf(pb, "%d %ld", f->x, f->y);
> }
> 
> #define FOO_PP(_x, _y) (struct foo_pp){.func = foo_pp, .x = (_x), .y = (_y)}
> 
> printk("bla bla %pf\n", &FOO_PP(aa, bb));

Hellllllllll no.

All that's missing right now is gcc checking that the function signature matches
the args specified within the (). That will come. No way in hell am I going to
implement some half baked hacked up macro crap - I intend to do this right.

> (2) Let the pretty-printer itself extract the varargs it expects. To
> portably pass around a va_list by reference it needs to be wrapped, so
> this would be
> 
> struct wva { va_list ap; };
> 
> void foo_pp(struct printbuf *pb, struct wva *w)
> {
>   int x = va_arg(w->ap, int);
>   long y = va_arg(w->ap, long);
>   pr_printf(pb, "%d %ld", x, y);
> }
> 
> printk("bla bla %pf(%d, %ld)\n", foo_pp, aa, bb)
> 
> with the core printf implementation internally using such a wrapped
> va_list, and after a %pf( relying on the pretty-printer having consumed
> the arguments up until the closing ). It would probably be a good idea
> to give the pretty-printer a pointer to that opening '(' or one-past-it
> as well so it could do a sanity check.

Also no. Varargs is terrible in most situations, and should only be used for
functions that actually want to take variable numbers of arguments - that
doesn't apply to pretty printers.


  reply	other threads:[~2022-06-21  7:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-20  0:41 [PATCH v4 00/34] Printbufs - new data structure for building strings Kent Overstreet
2022-06-20  0:42 ` [PATCH v4 01/34] lib/printbuf: New data structure for printing strings Kent Overstreet
2022-06-20  4:44   ` David Laight
2022-06-20 15:30     ` Kent Overstreet
2022-06-20 15:53       ` David Laight
2022-06-20 16:14         ` Kent Overstreet
2022-06-20  0:42 ` [PATCH v4 02/34] lib/string_helpers: Convert string_escape_mem() to printbuf Kent Overstreet
2022-06-20  0:42 ` [PATCH v4 03/34] vsprintf: Convert " Kent Overstreet
2022-06-20  0:42 ` [PATCH v4 04/34] lib/hexdump: " Kent Overstreet
2022-06-20  0:42 ` [PATCH v4 05/34] vsprintf: %pf(%p) Kent Overstreet
2022-06-21  7:04   ` Rasmus Villemoes
2022-06-21  7:51     ` Kent Overstreet [this message]
2022-06-21  8:47       ` Rasmus Villemoes
2022-06-21 11:11     ` David Laight
2022-06-20  0:42 ` [PATCH v4 06/34] lib/string_helpers: string_get_size() now returns characters wrote Kent Overstreet
2022-06-20  0:42 ` [PATCH v4 07/34] lib/printbuf: Heap allocation Kent Overstreet
2022-06-21  7:58   ` Rasmus Villemoes
2022-06-20  0:42 ` [PATCH v4 08/34] lib/printbuf: Tabstops, indenting Kent Overstreet
2022-06-21  8:14   ` Rasmus Villemoes
2022-06-20  0:42 ` [PATCH v4 09/34] lib/printbuf: Unit specifiers Kent Overstreet
2022-06-20  0:42 ` [PATCH v4 10/34] lib/pretty-printers: prt_string_option(), prt_bitflags() Kent Overstreet
2022-06-20  0:42 ` [PATCH v4 11/34] vsprintf: Improve number() Kent Overstreet
2022-06-21  8:33   ` Rasmus Villemoes
2022-06-20  0:42 ` [PATCH v4 12/34] vsprintf: prt_u64_minwidth(), prt_u64() Kent Overstreet
2022-06-20  0:42 ` [PATCH v4 13/34] test_printf: Drop requirement that sprintf not write past nul Kent Overstreet
2022-06-21  7:19   ` Rasmus Villemoes
2022-06-21  7:52     ` Kent Overstreet
2022-06-20  0:42 ` [PATCH v4 14/34] vsprintf: Start consolidating printf_spec handling Kent Overstreet
2022-06-20  0:42 ` [PATCH v4 15/34] vsprintf: Refactor resource_string() Kent Overstreet
2022-06-20  0:42 ` [PATCH v4 16/34] vsprintf: Refactor fourcc_string() Kent Overstreet
2022-06-20  0:42 ` [PATCH v4 17/34] vsprintf: Refactor ip_addr_string() Kent Overstreet
2022-06-20  0:42 ` [PATCH v4 18/34] vsprintf: Refactor mac_address_string() Kent Overstreet
2022-06-20  0:42 ` [PATCH v4 19/34] vsprintf: time_and_date() no longer takes printf_spec Kent Overstreet
2022-06-20  0:42 ` [PATCH v4 20/34] vsprintf: flags_string() " Kent Overstreet
2022-06-20  0:42 ` [PATCH v4 21/34] vsprintf: Refactor device_node_string, fwnode_string Kent Overstreet
2022-06-20  0:42 ` [PATCH v4 22/34] vsprintf: Refactor hex_string, bitmap_string_list, bitmap_string Kent Overstreet
2022-06-20  0:42 ` [PATCH v4 23/34] Input/joystick/analog: Convert from seq_buf -> printbuf Kent Overstreet
2022-06-20  0:42 ` [PATCH v4 24/34] mm/memcontrol.c: Convert to printbuf Kent Overstreet
2022-06-20 11:37   ` Michal Hocko
2022-06-20 15:13     ` Kent Overstreet
2022-06-20 15:52       ` Michal Hocko
2022-06-20  0:42 ` [PATCH v4 25/34] clk: tegra: bpmp: " Kent Overstreet
2022-06-20  0:42 ` [PATCH v4 26/34] tools/testing/nvdimm: " Kent Overstreet
2022-06-24 19:32   ` Dan Williams
2022-06-24 23:42     ` Santosh Sivaraj
2022-07-01  6:32       ` Shivaprasad G Bhat
2022-06-20  0:42 ` [PATCH v4 27/34] powerpc: " Kent Overstreet
2022-06-20  0:42 ` [PATCH v4 28/34] x86/resctrl: " Kent Overstreet
2022-06-20  0:42 ` [PATCH v4 29/34] PCI/P2PDMA: " Kent Overstreet
2022-06-20  0:42 ` [PATCH v4 30/34] tracing: trace_events_synth: " Kent Overstreet
2022-06-20  0:42 ` [PATCH v4 31/34] d_path: prt_path() Kent Overstreet
2022-06-20  0:42 ` [PATCH v4 32/34] ACPI/APEI: Add missing include Kent Overstreet
2022-06-20  0:42 ` [PATCH v4 33/34] tracing: Convert to printbuf Kent Overstreet
2022-06-20  0:42 ` [PATCH v4 34/34] Delete seq_buf Kent Overstreet
2022-06-20  4:19 ` [PATCH v4 00/34] Printbufs - new data structure for building strings David Laight
2022-06-20  4:54   ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-06-20  8:00     ` David Laight
2022-06-20 15:07   ` Kent Overstreet
2022-06-20 15:21     ` David Laight
2022-06-21  0:38     ` Joe Perches
2022-06-21  0:57       ` Kent Overstreet
2022-06-21  1:26         ` Joe Perches
2022-06-21  2:10           ` Joe Perches
2022-06-26 19:53             ` [RFC[ Alloc in vsprintf Joe Perches
2022-06-26 20:06               ` Kent Overstreet
2022-06-26 20:13                 ` Joe Perches
2022-06-26 20:19               ` Linus Torvalds
2022-06-26 20:39                 ` Joe Perches
2022-06-26 20:51                   ` Kent Overstreet
2022-06-26 21:02                     ` Joe Perches
2022-06-26 21:10                       ` Kent Overstreet
2022-06-26 20:54                   ` Linus Torvalds
2022-06-27  8:25                 ` David Laight
2022-06-28  2:56                   ` Kent Overstreet
2022-06-21  2:31           ` [PATCH v4 00/34] Printbufs - new data structure for building strings Kent Overstreet
2022-06-21  3:11   ` Kent Overstreet
2022-06-21  6:11 ` Rasmus Villemoes
2022-06-21  8:01   ` Kent Overstreet
2022-07-19 23:15 ` Steven Rostedt
2022-07-19 23:43   ` Kent Overstreet
2022-07-20  0:05     ` Steven Rostedt
2022-07-20  0:17       ` Kent Overstreet
2022-07-20  1:11         ` Steven Rostedt
2022-07-20  1:31           ` Kent Overstreet
2022-07-20  1:37             ` Steven Rostedt

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