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From: "Michal Koutný" <mkoutny@suse.com>
To: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Vernet <void@manifault.com>,
	tj@kernel.org, roman.gushchin@linux.dev,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org, mhocko@kernel.org, shakeelb@google.com,
	kernel-team@fb.com, Richard Palethorpe <rpalethorpe@suse.com>,
	Chris Down <chris@chrisdown.name>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/5] cgroup: Account for memory_recursiveprot in test_memcg_low()
Date: Thu, 12 May 2022 19:27:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220512172738.GB16096@blackbody.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Ynv4AdjeVjptnjrH@cmpxchg.org>

On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 01:53:05PM -0400, Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org> wrote:
> Can you indeed elaborate on the problem you see with low events?

My mistake. I realized I was testing on a system without
memory_recursiveprot enabled. Therefore I saw no events in children with
memory.low=0.

However, it also means that my previous evaluation of the "simple" fix
(dropping the SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX rounding) was incorrect and it actually
doesn't resolve the problem of two differently active siblings I posted
earlier.

> So your proposed patch looks like the right thing to do to me. And I
> would ack it, but please do explain your concerns around low event
> reporting after it.

I retract it (at least for now), it doesn't really help. It can be seen
(after application) [1] that once (low) protected memory is opened for
reclaim, the sibling proportions change suddenly (neither sibling is
protected during sc->memcg_low_reclaim, however, the formerly protected
suddenly provides good supply of reclaimable pages).

OTOH, without memory_recursiveprot [2], the elow growth of the victim
sibling is absent and situation stabilizes with only partial reclaim
from the (explicitly) protected sibling. 

In both variants (recursive/non-recursive) the parent ends up with same
amount of unreclaimed memory, however, the gradual tranfer of elow with
the recursive protection is undesired. (I'm only thinking how to solve
it simply.)

Michal

[1] https://bugzilla.suse.com/attachment.cgi?id=858869
[2] https://bugzilla.suse.com/attachment.cgi?id=858870



  reply	other threads:[~2022-05-12 17:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-04-23 15:56 [PATCH v2 0/5] Fix bugs in memcontroller cgroup tests David Vernet
2022-04-23 15:56 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] cgroups: Refactor children cgroups in memcg tests David Vernet
2022-04-26  1:56   ` Roman Gushchin
2022-04-23 15:56 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] cgroup: Account for memory_recursiveprot in test_memcg_low() David Vernet
2022-04-27 14:09   ` Michal Koutný
2022-04-29  1:03     ` David Vernet
2022-04-29  9:26       ` Michal Koutný
2022-05-06 16:40         ` David Vernet
2022-05-09 15:09           ` Johannes Weiner
2022-05-10  0:44             ` Andrew Morton
2022-05-10 17:43               ` Michal Koutný
2022-05-11 17:53                 ` Johannes Weiner
2022-05-12 17:27                   ` Michal Koutný [this message]
2022-04-23 15:56 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] cgroup: Account for memory_localevents in test_memcg_oom_group_leaf_events() David Vernet
2022-04-23 15:56 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] cgroup: Removing racy check in test_memcg_sock() David Vernet
2022-04-23 15:56 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] cgroup: Fix racy check in alloc_pagecache_max_30M() helper function David Vernet
2022-05-12 17:04 ` [PATCH v2 0/5] Fix bugs in memcontroller cgroup tests Michal Koutný
2022-05-12 17:30   ` David Vernet
2022-05-12 17:44     ` David Vernet
2022-05-13 17:18       ` [PATCH 0/4] memcontrol selftests fixups Michal Koutný
2022-05-13 17:18         ` [PATCH 1/4] selftests: memcg: Fix compilation Michal Koutný
2022-05-13 17:40           ` David Vernet
2022-05-13 18:53           ` Roman Gushchin
2022-05-13 19:09             ` Roman Gushchin
2022-05-13 17:18         ` [PATCH 2/4] selftests: memcg: Expect no low events in unprotected sibling Michal Koutný
2022-05-13 17:42           ` David Vernet
2022-05-13 18:54           ` Roman Gushchin
2022-05-18 15:54             ` Michal Koutný
2022-05-13 17:18         ` [PATCH 3/4] selftests: memcg: Adjust expected reclaim values of protected cgroups Michal Koutný
2022-05-13 18:52           ` Roman Gushchin
2022-05-13 17:18         ` [PATCH 4/4] selftests: memcg: Remove protection from top level memcg Michal Koutný
2022-05-13 18:59           ` Roman Gushchin
2022-05-18  0:24             ` Andrew Morton
2022-05-18  0:52               ` Roman Gushchin
2022-05-18 15:44                 ` Michal Koutný
2022-05-13 19:14           ` David Vernet

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