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From: Aaron Tomlin <atomlin@redhat.com>
To: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>
Cc: frederic@kernel.org, cl@linux.com, tglx@linutronix.de,
	mingo@kernel.org, peterz@infradead.org, pauld@redhat.com,
	neelx@redhat.com, oleksandr@natalenko.name,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v3] tick/sched: Ensure quiet_vmstat() is called when the idle tick was stopped too
Date: Wed, 4 May 2022 10:32:30 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220504093230.xmksdyagcpgs7sjt@ava.usersys.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YmrYfSSepamn5fVc@fuller.cnet>

On Thu 2022-04-28 15:10 -0300, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> So you are syncing the vmstats on every system call return:

Hi Marcelo,

Sorry about the delay!

No - indeed, that would be too expensive. If I understand correctly,
Peter Zijlstra's feedback was in response to a previous suggestion made:

	"Could we *always* fold the vmstat counters when entering
	 idle mode? ..."

I think an exception should be made for the adaptive-tick mode/or a
nohz_full CPU case when the scheduling-clock tick is stopped. Also, I feel
correctness is key, as previously indicated since a significant divergence
can impact memory reclaim code.

> Have you measured performance of any system call heavy application
> with this change?

Unfortunately not. That being said, the aforementioned test and work will
only take place under a nohz_full CPU and if the tick is stopped.
So this should be somewhat limited, no?

> Then the comment on why its so slow:
> 
> "This loop is quite heavy. Maybe reducing the data necessary to be read
> to a couple of cachelines would improve it considerably."
> 
> The comment:
> 
> "Is there anything that prevents a nohz full CPU from running an
> application with short and frequent idling?"
> 
> Is confusing and can be ignored.

Understood.



Kind regards,

-- 
Aaron Tomlin



      reply	other threads:[~2022-05-04  9:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-04-22 19:36 Aaron Tomlin
2022-04-25  7:23 ` Christoph Lameter
2022-04-25 11:39   ` Aaron Tomlin
2022-04-25 12:09     ` Christoph Lameter
2022-04-25 13:27       ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-04-25 14:06         ` Christoph Lameter
2022-04-25 14:51           ` Aaron Tomlin
2022-04-25 14:57           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2022-04-25 14:17         ` Aaron Tomlin
2022-04-25 19:21           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2022-04-27 11:50             ` Aaron Tomlin
2022-04-27 14:40               ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-04-27 14:49                 ` Aaron Tomlin
2022-04-28 18:10 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2022-05-04  9:32   ` Aaron Tomlin [this message]

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