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From: Hillf Danton <hdanton@sina.com>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
Cc: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [Question] srcu: is it making sense to recursively invoke srcu_read_lock?
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2022 08:52:12 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220422005212.2569-1-hdanton@sina.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220421133414.GP4285@paulmck-ThinkPad-P17-Gen-1>

On Thu, 21 Apr 2022 06:34:14 -0700 Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 12:22:11PM +0800, Hillf Danton wrote:
> > Given rcu_lock_acquire() in srcu_read_lock(),
> > 
> > 	iA = srcu_read_lock(foo);
> > 	iB = srcu_read_lock(foo); // not bar
> > 	...
> > 	srcu_read_unlock(foo, iB);
> > 	srcu_read_unlock(foo, iA);
> > 
> > can the call sequence above trigger warning with CONFIG_DEBUG_LOCK_ALLOC enabled?
> 
> I hope not!  After all, nesting SRCU read-side critical sections is
> perfectly legal.  But why not just try it and see?

Thanks for shedding light on nested SRCUs - it cures my pain working out
the reason for how detecting nested SRCUs is added [1]. Now I see why it
is out of kernel/rcu.

Hillf

[1] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220415004343.2203171-4-seanjc@google.com/

> > Does it make sense to add srcu_lock_acquire() in line with rwsem_acquire_read() if
> > warning is expected but not triggered?
> 
> Please understand that while SRCU can often be used where an rwsem
> might otherwise be used, SRCU is not an rwsem.  For one thing, rwsem
> readers can deadlock in ways that SRCU reader cannot.
> 
> Now, I don't yet know of a non-destructive use case for partially
> overlapping SRCU read-side critical sections, for example, if you
> switched the two srcu_read_unlock() calls above.  But at the same
> time, I cannot prove that there is no valid use case, not yet,
> anyway.
> 
> 						Thanx, Paul
> 
> > Thanks
> > Hillf
> > 
> > static inline void rcu_lock_acquire(struct lockdep_map *map)
> > {
> > 	lock_acquire(map, 0, 0, 2, 0, NULL, _THIS_IP_);
> > }
> > 
> > static inline void srcu_lock_acquire(struct lockdep_map *map)
> > {
> > 	lock_acquire(map, 0, 0, 1, 0, NULL, _THIS_IP_);
> > }
> 


  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-04-22  0:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-04-21  4:22 Hillf Danton
2022-04-21 13:34 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-04-21 23:08   ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-04-22  0:52   ` Hillf Danton [this message]
2022-04-22  3:09     ` Paul E. McKenney

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