From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: mingo@redhat.com, tglx@linutronix.de, juri.lelli@redhat.com,
vincent.guittot@linaro.org, dietmar.eggemann@arm.com,
rostedt@goodmis.org, bsegall@google.com, mgorman@suse.de,
bristot@redhat.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org,
pjt@google.com, posk@google.com, avagin@google.com,
jannh@google.com, tdelisle@uwaterloo.ca, mark.rutland@arm.com,
posk@posk.io
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH v2 1/5] mm: Avoid unmapping pinned pages
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2022 12:40:58 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220121114058.GE20638@worktop.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <10d6cc13-b96b-e1b6-8751-1b245b242738@redhat.com>
On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 10:04:45AM +0100, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 21.01.22 09:59, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > However, I'm not quite sure what fork() does with pages that have a pin.
>
> We COW the anon pages always, and we protect against concurrent GUP
> using the
> * mmap_lock in exclusive mode for ordinary GUP
> * mm->write_protect_seq for GUP-fast
Right, but neither the mmap_sem nor the write_protect_seq help anything
at all vs already extant page pins.
But I just found copy_present_page()'s page_needs_cow_for_dma(), which I
think deals with exactly that case, it avoids doing CoW on pinned pages
and instead feeds the child a full copy while keeping the pinned page in
the original process.
> > Naively, a page that has async DMA activity should not be CoW'ed, or if
> > it is, care must be taken to ensure the original pages stays in the
> > original process, but I realize that's somewhat hard.
>
> That's precisely what I'm working on fixing ... and yes, it's hard.
>
> Let me know if you need any other information, I've spent way too much
> time on this than I ever panned.
So let me try and get this right:
- GUP post-fork breaks CoW for FOLL_WRITE/FOLL_PIN, without either
there's a problem where one task might observe changes by another.
- GUP pre-fork prevents CoW and does a full copy.
And that all mostly works, except for a fair amount of 'fun' cases?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-01-21 11:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-01-20 15:55 [RFC][PATCH v2 0/5] sched: User Managed Concurrency Groups Peter Zijlstra
2022-01-20 15:55 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 1/5] mm: Avoid unmapping pinned pages Peter Zijlstra
2022-01-20 18:03 ` Nadav Amit
2022-01-21 7:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-01-20 18:25 ` David Hildenbrand
2022-01-21 7:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-01-21 8:22 ` David Hildenbrand
2022-01-21 8:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-01-21 9:04 ` David Hildenbrand
2022-01-21 11:40 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2022-01-21 12:04 ` David Hildenbrand
2022-01-20 15:55 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 2/5] entry,x86: Create common IRQ operations for exceptions Peter Zijlstra
2022-01-21 16:34 ` Mark Rutland
2022-01-20 15:55 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 3/5] sched/umcg: add WF_CURRENT_CPU and externise ttwu Peter Zijlstra
2022-01-20 15:55 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 4/5] x86/uaccess: Implement unsafe_try_cmpxchg_user() Peter Zijlstra
2022-01-27 2:17 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-01-27 6:36 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-01-27 9:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-01-27 23:33 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-01-28 0:17 ` Nick Desaulniers
2022-01-28 16:29 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-01-27 9:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-01-20 15:55 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 5/5] sched: User Mode Concurency Groups Peter Zijlstra
2022-01-21 11:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-01-21 15:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-01-24 14:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-01-24 16:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-01-24 17:06 ` Peter Oskolkov
2022-01-25 14:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-01-24 13:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-01-21 12:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-01-21 16:57 ` Mark Rutland
2022-01-24 9:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-01-24 10:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-01-24 10:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-01-24 10:27 ` Mark Rutland
2022-01-24 14:46 ` Tao Zhou
2022-01-27 12:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-01-27 18:33 ` Tao Zhou
2022-01-27 12:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-01-27 18:47 ` Tao Zhou
2022-01-27 12:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-01-27 18:31 ` Tao Zhou
2022-01-20 17:28 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 0/5] sched: User Managed Concurrency Groups Peter Oskolkov
2022-01-21 8:01 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-01-21 18:01 ` Steven Rostedt
2022-01-24 8:20 ` Peter Zijlstra
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