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From: Yan Zhao <yan.y.zhao@intel.com>
To: Chao Peng <chao.p.peng@linux.intel.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 kvm/queue 14/16] KVM: Handle page fault for private memory
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2022 15:53:56 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220105075356.GB19947@yzhao56-desk.sh.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220105062810.GB25283@chaop.bj.intel.com>

On Wed, Jan 05, 2022 at 02:28:10PM +0800, Chao Peng wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 04, 2022 at 06:06:12PM +0800, Yan Zhao wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 04, 2022 at 05:10:08PM +0800, Chao Peng wrote:
<...> 
> > Thanks. So QEMU will re-generate memslots and set KVM_MEM_PRIVATE
> > accordingly? Will it involve slot deletion and create?
> 
> KVM will not re-generate memslots when do the conversion, instead, it
> does unmap/map a range on the same memslot. For memslot with tag
> KVM_MEM_PRIVATE, it always have two mappings (private/shared) but at a
> time only one is effective. What conversion does is to turn off the
> existing mapping and turn on the other mapping for specified range in
> that slot.
>
got it. thanks!

<...>
> > > > > +static bool kvm_faultin_pfn_private(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu,
> > > > > +				    struct kvm_page_fault *fault,
> > > > > +				    bool *is_private_pfn, int *r)
> > > > > +{
> > > > > +	int order;
> > > > > +	int mem_convert_type;
> > > > > +	struct kvm_memory_slot *slot = fault->slot;
> > > > > +	long pfn = kvm_memfd_get_pfn(slot, fault->gfn, &order);
> > > > For private memory slots, it's possible to have pfns backed by
> > > > backends other than memfd, e.g. devicefd.
> > > 
> > > Surely yes, although this patch only supports memfd, but it's designed
> > > to be extensible to support other memory backing stores than memfd. There
> > > is one assumption in this design however: one private memslot can be
> > > backed by only one type of such memory backing store, e.g. if the
> > > devicefd you mentioned can independently provide memory for a memslot
> > > then that's no issue.
> > > 
> > > >So is it possible to let those
> > > > private memslots keep private and use traditional hva-based way?
> > > 
> > > Typically this fd-based private memory uses the 'offset' as the
> > > userspace address to get a pfn from the backing store fd. But I believe
> > > the current code does not prevent you from using the hva as the
> > By hva-based way, I mean mmap is required for this fd.
> > 
> > > userspace address, as long as your memory backing store understand that
> > > address and can provide the pfn basing on it. But since you already have
> > > the hva, you probably already mmap-ed the fd to userspace, that seems
> > > not this private memory patch can protect you. Probably I didn't quite
> > Yes, for this fd, though mapped in private memslot, there's no need to
> > prevent QEMU/host from accessing it as it will not cause the severe machine
> > check.
> > 
> > > understand 'keep private' you mentioned here.
> > 'keep private' means allow this kind of private memslot which does not
> > require protection from this private memory patch :)
> 
> Then I think such memory can be the shared part of memory of the
> KVM_MEM_PRIVATE memslot. As said above, this is initially supported :)
>
Sorry, maybe I didn't express it clearly.

As in the kvm_faultin_pfn_private(), 
static bool kvm_faultin_pfn_private(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu,
				    struct kvm_page_fault *fault,
				    bool *is_private_pfn, int *r)
{
	int order;
	int mem_convert_type;
	struct kvm_memory_slot *slot = fault->slot;
	long pfn = kvm_memfd_get_pfn(slot, fault->gfn, &order);
	...
}
Currently, kvm_memfd_get_pfn() is called unconditionally.
However, if the backend of a private memslot is not memfd, and is device
fd for example, a different xxx_get_pfn() is required here.

Further, though mapped to a private gfn, it might be ok for QEMU to
access the device fd in hva-based way (or call it MMU access way, e.g.
read/write/mmap), it's desired that it could use the traditional to get
pfn without convert the range to a shared one.
pfn = __gfn_to_pfn_memslot(slot, fault->gfn, ...)
	|->addr = __gfn_to_hva_many (slot, gfn,...)
	|  pfn = hva_to_pfn (addr,...)


So, is it possible to recognize such kind of backends in KVM, and to get
the pfn in traditional way without converting them to shared?
e.g.
- specify KVM_MEM_PRIVATE_NONPROTECT to memory regions with such kind
of backends, or
- detect the fd type and check if get_pfn is provided. if no, go the
  traditional way.

Thanks
Yan

> > > > Reasons below:
> > > > 1. only memfd is supported in this patch set.
> > > > 2. qemu/host read/write to those private memslots backing up by devicefd may
> > > > not cause machine check.



  reply	other threads:[~2022-01-05  8:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-12-23 12:29 [PATCH v3 kvm/queue 00/16] KVM: mm: fd-based approach for supporting KVM guest " Chao Peng
2021-12-23 12:29 ` [PATCH v3 kvm/queue 01/16] mm/shmem: Introduce F_SEAL_INACCESSIBLE Chao Peng
2022-01-04 14:22   ` David Hildenbrand
2022-01-06 13:06     ` Chao Peng
2022-01-13 15:56       ` David Hildenbrand
2021-12-23 12:29 ` [PATCH v3 kvm/queue 02/16] mm/memfd: Introduce MFD_INACCESSIBLE flag Chao Peng
2021-12-23 12:29 ` [PATCH v3 kvm/queue 03/16] mm/memfd: Introduce MEMFD_OPS Chao Peng
2021-12-24  3:53   ` Robert Hoo
2021-12-31  2:38     ` Chao Peng
2022-01-04 17:38       ` Sean Christopherson
2022-01-05  6:07         ` Chao Peng
2021-12-23 12:29 ` [PATCH v3 kvm/queue 04/16] KVM: Extend the memslot to support fd-based private memory Chao Peng
2021-12-23 17:35   ` Sean Christopherson
2021-12-31  2:53     ` Chao Peng
2022-01-04 17:34       ` Sean Christopherson
2021-12-23 12:30 ` [PATCH v3 kvm/queue 05/16] KVM: Maintain ofs_tree for fast memslot lookup by file offset Chao Peng
2021-12-23 18:02   ` Sean Christopherson
2021-12-24  3:54     ` Chao Peng
2021-12-27 23:50       ` Yao Yuan
2021-12-28 21:48       ` Sean Christopherson
2021-12-31  2:26         ` Chao Peng
2022-01-04 17:43           ` Sean Christopherson
2022-01-05  6:09             ` Chao Peng
2021-12-23 12:30 ` [PATCH v3 kvm/queue 06/16] KVM: Implement fd-based memory using MEMFD_OPS interfaces Chao Peng
2021-12-23 18:34   ` Sean Christopherson
2021-12-23 23:09     ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-12-24  4:25       ` Chao Peng
2021-12-28 22:14         ` Sean Christopherson
2021-12-24  4:12     ` Chao Peng
2021-12-24  4:22     ` Chao Peng
2021-12-23 12:30 ` [PATCH v3 kvm/queue 07/16] KVM: Refactor hva based memory invalidation code Chao Peng
2021-12-23 12:30 ` [PATCH v3 kvm/queue 08/16] KVM: Special handling for fd-based memory invalidation Chao Peng
2021-12-23 12:30 ` [PATCH v3 kvm/queue 09/16] KVM: Split out common memory invalidation code Chao Peng
2021-12-23 12:30 ` [PATCH v3 kvm/queue 10/16] KVM: Implement fd-based memory invalidation Chao Peng
2021-12-23 12:30 ` [PATCH v3 kvm/queue 11/16] KVM: Add kvm_map_gfn_range Chao Peng
2021-12-23 18:06   ` Sean Christopherson
2021-12-24  4:13     ` Chao Peng
2021-12-31  2:33       ` Chao Peng
2022-01-04 17:31         ` Sean Christopherson
2022-01-05  6:14           ` Chao Peng
2022-01-05 17:03             ` Sean Christopherson
2022-01-06 12:35               ` Chao Peng
2021-12-23 12:30 ` [PATCH v3 kvm/queue 12/16] KVM: Implement fd-based memory fallocation Chao Peng
2021-12-23 12:30 ` [PATCH v3 kvm/queue 13/16] KVM: Add KVM_EXIT_MEMORY_ERROR exit Chao Peng
2021-12-23 18:28   ` Sean Christopherson
2021-12-23 12:30 ` [PATCH v3 kvm/queue 14/16] KVM: Handle page fault for private memory Chao Peng
2022-01-04  1:46   ` Yan Zhao
2022-01-04  9:10     ` Chao Peng
2022-01-04 10:06       ` Yan Zhao
2022-01-05  6:28         ` Chao Peng
2022-01-05  7:53           ` Yan Zhao [this message]
2022-01-05 20:52             ` Sean Christopherson
2022-01-14  5:53               ` Yan Zhao
2021-12-23 12:30 ` [PATCH v3 kvm/queue 15/16] KVM: Use kvm_userspace_memory_region_ext Chao Peng
2021-12-23 12:30 ` [PATCH v3 kvm/queue 16/16] KVM: Register/unregister private memory slot to memfd Chao Peng

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