From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Peter Oskolkov <posk@posk.io>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-api@vger.kernel.org, Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>,
Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>, Peter Oskolkov <posk@google.com>,
Andrei Vagin <avagin@google.com>, Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
Thierry Delisle <tdelisle@uwaterloo.ca>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v0.9.1 3/6] sched/umcg: implement UMCG syscalls
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2021 22:32:24 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20211124213224.GA735260@worktop.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20211124200822.GF721624@worktop.programming.kicks-ass.net>
On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 09:08:23PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 01:13:24PM -0800, Peter Oskolkov wrote:
> > +/**
> > + * struct umcg_task - controls the state of UMCG tasks.
> > + *
> > + * The struct is aligned at 64 bytes to ensure that it fits into
> > + * a single cache line.
> > + */
> > +struct umcg_task {
> > + /**
> > + * @state_ts: the current state of the UMCG task described by
> > + * this struct, with a unique timestamp indicating
> > + * when the last state change happened.
> > + *
> > + * Readable/writable by both the kernel and the userspace.
> > + *
> > + * UMCG task state:
> > + * bits 0 - 5: task state;
> > + * bits 6 - 7: state flags;
> > + * bits 8 - 12: reserved; must be zeroes;
> > + * bits 13 - 17: for userspace use;
> > + * bits 18 - 63: timestamp (see below).
> > + *
> > + * Timestamp: a 46-bit CLOCK_MONOTONIC timestamp, at 16ns resolution.
> > + * See Documentation/userspace-api/umcg.txt for detals.
> > + */
> > + __u64 state_ts; /* r/w */
> > +
> > + /**
> > + * @next_tid: the TID of the UMCG task that should be context-switched
> > + * into in sys_umcg_wait(). Can be zero.
> > + *
> > + * Running UMCG workers must have next_tid set to point to IDLE
> > + * UMCG servers.
> > + *
> > + * Read-only for the kernel, read/write for the userspace.
> > + */
> > + __u32 next_tid; /* r */
> > +
> > + __u32 flags; /* Reserved; must be zero. */
> > +
> > + /**
> > + * @idle_workers_ptr: a single-linked list of idle workers. Can be NULL.
> > + *
> > + * Readable/writable by both the kernel and the userspace: the
> > + * kernel adds items to the list, the userspace removes them.
> > + */
> > + __u64 idle_workers_ptr; /* r/w */
> > +
> > + /**
> > + * @idle_server_tid_ptr: a pointer pointing to a single idle server.
> > + * Readonly.
> > + */
> > + __u64 idle_server_tid_ptr; /* r */
> > +} __attribute__((packed, aligned(8 * sizeof(__u64))));
>
> The thing is; I really don't see how this is supposed to be used. Where
> did the blocked and runnable list go ?
>
> I also don't see why the kernel cares about idle workers at all; that
> seems something userspace can sort itself just fine.
>
> The whole next_tid thing seems confused too, how can it be the next task
> when it must be the server? Also, what if there isn't an idle server?
>
> This just all isn't making any sense to me.
Oooh, someone made things super confusing by doing s/runnable/idle/ on
the whole thing :-( That only took me most of the day to figure out.
Naming is important, don't mess about with stuff like this.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-11-24 21:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-11-22 21:13 [PATCH v0.9.1 0/6] sched,mm,x86/uaccess: implement User Managed Concurrency Groups Peter Oskolkov
2021-11-22 21:13 ` [PATCH v0.9.1 1/6] sched/umcg: add WF_CURRENT_CPU and externise ttwu Peter Oskolkov
2021-11-22 21:13 ` [PATCH v0.9.1 2/6] mm, x86/uaccess: add userspace atomic helpers Peter Oskolkov
2021-11-24 14:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-22 21:13 ` [PATCH v0.9.1 3/6] sched/umcg: implement UMCG syscalls Peter Oskolkov
2021-11-24 18:36 ` kernel test robot
2021-11-24 20:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-24 21:32 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2021-11-25 17:28 ` Peter Oskolkov
2021-11-26 17:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-26 21:08 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-26 21:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-26 22:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-27 0:45 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-29 15:05 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-26 22:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-27 1:16 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-29 15:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-29 0:29 ` Peter Oskolkov
2021-11-29 16:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-29 17:34 ` Peter Oskolkov
2021-11-29 21:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-29 21:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-29 23:38 ` Peter Oskolkov
2021-12-06 11:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-12-06 12:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-12-13 13:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-12-06 11:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-01-19 17:26 ` Peter Oskolkov
2022-01-20 11:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-24 21:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-26 21:11 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-26 21:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-29 22:07 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-29 22:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-24 21:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-24 21:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-24 22:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-22 21:13 ` [PATCH v0.9.1 4/6] sched/umcg, lib/umcg: implement libumcg Peter Oskolkov
2021-11-22 21:13 ` [PATCH v0.9.1 5/6] sched/umcg: add Documentation/userspace-api/umcg.txt Peter Oskolkov
2021-11-22 21:13 ` [PATCH v0.9.1 6/6] sched/umcg, lib/umcg: add tools/lib/umcg/libumcg.txt Peter Oskolkov
2021-11-24 14:06 ` [PATCH v0.9.1 0/6] sched,mm,x86/uaccess: implement User Managed Concurrency Groups Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-24 16:28 ` Peter Oskolkov
2021-11-24 17:20 ` Peter Zijlstra
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