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From: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: Chao Peng <chao.p.peng@linux.intel.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Wanpeng Li <wanpengli@tencent.com>,
	luto@kernel.org, "J . Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>,
	dave.hansen@intel.com, "H . Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	ak@linux.intel.com, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
	x86@kernel.org, Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	jun.nakajima@intel.com, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>,
	Jim Mattson <jmattson@google.com>,
	Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
	susie.li@intel.com, Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>,
	john.ji@intel.com, Yu Zhang <yu.c.zhang@linux.intel.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Kirill A . Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC v2 PATCH 01/13] mm/shmem: Introduce F_SEAL_GUEST
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2021 16:59:33 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20211122135933.arjxpl7wyskkwvwv@box.shutemov.name> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <942e0dd6-e426-06f6-7b6c-0e80d23c27e6@redhat.com>

On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 02:51:11PM +0100, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 19.11.21 14:47, Chao Peng wrote:
> > From: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>
> > 
> > The new seal type provides semantics required for KVM guest private
> > memory support. A file descriptor with the seal set is going to be used
> > as source of guest memory in confidential computing environments such as
> > Intel TDX and AMD SEV.
> > 
> > F_SEAL_GUEST can only be set on empty memfd. After the seal is set
> > userspace cannot read, write or mmap the memfd.
> > 
> > Userspace is in charge of guest memory lifecycle: it can allocate the
> > memory with falloc or punch hole to free memory from the guest.
> > 
> > The file descriptor passed down to KVM as guest memory backend. KVM
> > register itself as the owner of the memfd via memfd_register_guest().
> > 
> > KVM provides callback that needed to be called on fallocate and punch
> > hole.
> > 
> > memfd_register_guest() returns callbacks that need be used for
> > requesting a new page from memfd.
> > 
> 
> Repeating the feedback I already shared in a private mail thread:
> 
> 
> As long as page migration / swapping is not supported, these pages
> behave like any longterm pinned pages (e.g., VFIO) or secretmem pages.
> 
> 1. These pages are not MOVABLE. They must not end up on ZONE_MOVABLE or
> MIGRATE_CMA.
> 
> That should be easy to handle, you have to adjust the gfp_mask to
> 	mapping_set_gfp_mask(inode->i_mapping, GFP_HIGHUSER);
> just as mm/secretmem.c:secretmem_file_create() does.

Okay, fair enough. mapping_set_unevictable() also makes sesne.

> 2. These pages behave like mlocked pages and should be accounted as such.
> 
> This is probably where the accounting "fun" starts, but maybe it's
> easier than I think to handle.
> 
> See mm/secretmem.c:secretmem_mmap(), where we account the pages as
> VM_LOCKED and will consequently check per-process mlock limits. As we
> don't mmap(), the same approach cannot be reused.
> 
> See drivers/vfio/vfio_iommu_type1.c:vfio_pin_map_dma() and
> vfio_pin_pages_remote() on how to manually account via mm->locked_vm .
> 
> But it's a bit hairy because these pages are not actually mapped into
> the page tables of the MM, so it might need some thought. Similarly,
> these pages actually behave like "pinned" (as in mm->pinned_vm), but we
> just don't increase the refcount AFAIR. Again, accounting really is a
> bit hairy ...

Accounting is fun indeed. Non-mapped mlocked memory is going to be
confusing. Hm...

I will look closer.

-- 
 Kirill A. Shutemov


  reply	other threads:[~2021-11-22 13:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-11-19 13:47 [RFC v2 PATCH 00/13] KVM: mm: fd-based approach for supporting KVM guest private memory Chao Peng
2021-11-19 13:47 ` [RFC v2 PATCH 01/13] mm/shmem: Introduce F_SEAL_GUEST Chao Peng
2021-11-19 13:51   ` David Hildenbrand
2021-11-22 13:59     ` Kirill A. Shutemov [this message]
2021-11-19 15:19   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-19 15:39     ` David Hildenbrand
2021-11-19 16:00       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-22  9:26         ` David Hildenbrand
2021-11-22 13:31           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-22 13:35             ` David Hildenbrand
2021-11-22 14:01               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-22 14:57                 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-11-22 15:09                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-22 15:15                     ` David Hildenbrand
2021-11-19 19:18       ` Sean Christopherson
2021-11-19 19:47         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-19 22:21           ` Sean Christopherson
2021-11-19 23:33             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-20  1:23               ` Sean Christopherson
2021-11-21  0:05                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-23  9:06       ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-11-23 14:33         ` Chao Peng
2021-11-23 15:20         ` David Hildenbrand
2021-11-23 17:17         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-23  8:54   ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-12-03  1:11   ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-11-19 13:47 ` [RFC v2 PATCH 02/13] KVM: Add KVM_EXIT_MEMORY_ERROR exit Chao Peng
2021-11-19 13:47 ` [RFC v2 PATCH 03/13] KVM: Extend kvm_userspace_memory_region to support fd based memslot Chao Peng
2021-11-19 13:47 ` [RFC v2 PATCH 04/13] KVM: Add fd-based memslot data structure and utils Chao Peng
2021-11-23  8:41   ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-11-23 14:30     ` Chao Peng
2021-11-19 13:47 ` [RFC v2 PATCH 05/13] KVM: Implement fd-based memory using new memfd interfaces Chao Peng
2021-11-19 13:47 ` [RFC v2 PATCH 06/13] KVM: Register/unregister memfd backed memslot Chao Peng
2021-11-25 16:55   ` Steven Price
2021-11-19 13:47 ` [RFC v2 PATCH 07/13] KVM: Handle page fault for fd based memslot Chao Peng
2021-11-20  1:55   ` Yao Yuan
2021-11-22  9:18     ` Chao Peng
2021-11-19 13:47 ` [RFC v2 PATCH 08/13] KVM: Rename hva memory invalidation code to cover fd-based offset Chao Peng
2021-11-19 13:47 ` [RFC v2 PATCH 09/13] KVM: Introduce kvm_memfd_invalidate_range Chao Peng
2021-11-23  8:46   ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-11-23 14:24     ` Chao Peng
2021-11-19 13:47 ` [RFC v2 PATCH 10/13] KVM: Match inode for invalidation of fd-based slot Chao Peng
2021-11-19 13:47 ` [RFC v2 PATCH 11/13] KVM: Add kvm_map_gfn_range Chao Peng
2021-11-19 13:47 ` [RFC v2 PATCH 12/13] KVM: Introduce kvm_memfd_fallocate_range Chao Peng
2021-11-19 13:47 ` [RFC v2 PATCH 13/13] KVM: Enable memfd based page invalidation/fallocate Chao Peng
2021-11-22 14:16   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2021-11-23  1:06     ` Chao Peng
2021-11-23  9:09       ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-11-23 15:00         ` Chao Peng
2021-11-23  8:51   ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-12-03  1:08 ` [RFC v2 PATCH 00/13] KVM: mm: fd-based approach for supporting KVM guest private memory Andy Lutomirski

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