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From: Hyeonggon Yoo <42.hyeyoo@gmail.com>
To: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
Cc: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>,
	Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [QUESTION] is SLAB considered legacy and deprecated?
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2021 13:31:02 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20211005133102.GB2760@kvm.asia-northeast3-a.c.our-ratio-313919.internal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <075fde61-8c28-25ec-0ec1-28b1bdea7c95@suse.cz>

On Mon, Oct 04, 2021 at 01:39:46PM +0200, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
> On 10/4/21 08:01, Hyeonggon Yoo wrote:
> > On Sun, Oct 03, 2021 at 06:25:29PM -0700, David Rientjes wrote:
> >> I would disagree that SLAB isn't currently maintained, I think it's 
> >> actively maintained.
> > 
> > I thought it was not actively maintained because most of patches were
> > fixups and cleanups for years and as Vlastimil said, new features are
> 
> Fixups and cleanups still count as "actively maintained". The opposite
> case would be "nobody uses it because it was broken for years since
> commit X and we only noticed now".
>

Yup, there seems I was differently using meaning of "actively
maintained".

> > only added to SLUB. development was focused on SLUB.
> > 
> >> I think the general guidance is that changes for both allocators can still
> >> be merged upstream if they show a significant win (improved performnace, 
> >> maintaining performance while reducing memory footprint, code hygiene, 
> >> etc) and there's no specific policy that we cannot make changes to 
> >> mm/slab.c.
> > 
> > Good.
> > 
> > I see things to improve in SLAB and want to improve it.
> > I will appreciate if you review them.
>
> It would be great if your motivation started with "I prefer SLAB over
> SLUB because X and Y but I need to improve Z", not just a theoretical
> concern.
> 

Thank you for advice. by making dumb patches I realized that
, yeah, just a theoretical concern does not help.

I should have more understanding on internals of slab allocators
and on how their characteristics affect performance depending on situation.
and most importantly I should have actual evidence of performance measurement.

I'm sorry and Thank you for thinking about and answering my (somewhat dumb) questions.
But I'm happy that I'm learning a lot from your feedback.

> > Thanks,
> > Hyeonggon
> > 
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-05 13:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-27  9:03 Hyeonggon Yoo
2021-09-27 17:03 ` Vlastimil Babka
2021-09-28 11:12   ` Hyeonggon Yoo
2021-09-29 10:50     ` Hyeonggon Yoo
2021-10-01 14:07     ` Vlastimil Babka
2021-10-03  5:59       ` Hyeonggon Yoo
2021-10-04  1:25         ` David Rientjes
2021-10-04  6:01           ` Hyeonggon Yoo
2021-10-04 11:39             ` Vlastimil Babka
2021-10-05 13:31               ` Hyeonggon Yoo [this message]
2021-10-04 11:34         ` Vlastimil Babka
2021-10-04 14:22           ` Hyeonggon Yoo
2021-10-01  0:39   ` Queueing is outside of SLUB nowdays Hyeonggon Yoo
2021-10-04 14:56     ` Christoph Lameter
2021-10-05  8:19       ` Vlastimil Babka
2021-10-05 14:16         ` Hyeonggon Yoo

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