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From: Liam Howlett <liam.howlett@oracle.com>
To: Aneesh Kumar K.V <aneesh.kumar@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	linuxppc-dev <linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>,
	Kalesh Singh <kaleshsingh@google.com>,
	Nick Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>,
	Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>,
	Christophe Leroy <christophe.leroy@csgroup.eu>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 7/9] mm/mremap: Move TLB flush outside page table lock
Date: Fri, 21 May 2021 15:24:48 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210521152438.jczhe6nxnz5woxpl@revolver> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5ea8fa4f-a5a2-7dc4-7958-23df6a2c1f3a@linux.ibm.com>

* Aneesh Kumar K.V <aneesh.kumar@linux.ibm.com> [210521 08:51]:
> On 5/21/21 11:43 AM, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 5:03 PM Aneesh Kumar K.V
> > <aneesh.kumar@linux.ibm.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > On 5/21/21 8:10 AM, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > So mremap does need to flush the TLB before releasing the page table
> > > > lock, because that's the lifetime boundary for the page that got
> > > > moved.
> > > 
> > > How will we avoid that happening with
> > > c49dd340180260c6239e453263a9a244da9a7c85 /
> > > 2c91bd4a4e2e530582d6fd643ea7b86b27907151 . The commit improves mremap
> > > performance by moving level3/level2 page table entries. When doing so we
> > > are not holding level 4 ptl lock (pte_lock()). But rather we are holding
> > > pmd_lock or pud_lock(). So if we move pages around without holding the
> > > pte lock, won't the above issue happen even if we do a tlb flush with
> > > holding pmd lock/pud lock?
> > 
> > Hmm. Interesting.
> > 
> > Your patch (to flush the TLB after clearing the old location, and
> > before inserting it into the new one) looks like an "obvious" fix.
> > 
> > But I'm putting that "obvious" in quotes, because I'm now wondering if
> > it actually fixes anything.
> > 
> > Lookie here:
> > 
> >   - CPU1 does a mremap of a pmd or pud.
> > 
> >      It clears the old pmd/pud, flushes the old TLB range, and then
> > inserts the pmd/pud at the new location.
> > 
> >   - CPU2 does a page shrinker, which calls try_to_unmap, which calls
> > try_to_unmap_one.
> > 
> > These are entirely asynchronous, because they have no shared lock. The
> > mremap uses the pmd lock, the try_to_unmap_one() does the rmap walk,
> > which does the pte lock.
> > 
> > Now, imagine that the following ordering happens with the two
> > operations above, and a CPU3 that does accesses:
> > 
> >   - CPU2 follows (and sees) the old page tables in the old location and
> > the took the pte lock
> > 
> >   - the mremap on CPU1 starts - cleared the old pmd, flushed the tlb,
> > *and* inserts in the new place.
> > 
> >   - a user thread on CPU3 accesses the new location and fills the TLB
> > of the *new* address

mremap holds the mmap_sem in write mode as well, doesn't it?  How is the user thread
getting the new location?

> > 
> >   - only now does CPU2 get to the "pte_get_and_clear()" to remove one page
> > 
> >   - CPU2 does a TLB flush and frees the page
> > 
> > End result:
> > 
> >   - both CPU1 _and_ CPU2 have flushed the TLB.
> > 
> >   - but both flushed the *OLD* address
> > 
> >   - the page is freed
> > 
> >   - CPU3 still has the stale TLB entry pointing to the page that is now
> > free and might be reused for something else
> > 
> > Am I missing something?
> > 
> 
> That is a problem. With that it looks like CONFIG_HAVE_MOVE_PMD/PUD is
> broken? I don't see an easy way to fix this?
> 
> -aneesh
> 
> 

  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-05-21 15:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-22  5:43 [PATCH v5 0/9] Speedup mremap on ppc64 Aneesh Kumar K.V
2021-04-22  5:43 ` [PATCH v5 1/9] selftest/mremap_test: Update the test to handle pagesize other than 4K Aneesh Kumar K.V
2021-04-22  5:43 ` [PATCH v5 2/9] selftest/mremap_test: Avoid crash with static build Aneesh Kumar K.V
2021-04-22  5:43 ` [PATCH v5 3/9] mm/mremap: Use pmd/pud_poplulate to update page table entries Aneesh Kumar K.V
2021-05-18 20:04   ` Nathan Chancellor
2021-05-19  4:46     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2021-05-19 18:02       ` Nathan Chancellor
2021-05-20  2:18       ` Peter Xu
2021-05-20  8:26         ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2021-05-20 12:46           ` Peter Xu
2021-05-20 13:23             ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2021-05-20 13:37               ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2021-05-20 14:57                 ` Peter Xu
2021-05-20 19:06                   ` Zi Yan
2021-05-20 20:01                     ` Peter Xu
2021-05-20 20:25                       ` Kalesh Singh
2021-04-22  5:43 ` [PATCH v5 4/9] powerpc/mm/book3s64: Fix possible build error Aneesh Kumar K.V
2021-04-22  5:43 ` [PATCH v5 5/9] powerpc/mm/book3s64: Update tlb flush routines to take a page walk cache flush argument Aneesh Kumar K.V
2021-05-15 16:35   ` Guenter Roeck
2021-05-15 20:41     ` Andrew Morton
2021-05-15 23:05       ` Guenter Roeck
2021-05-17  8:40     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2021-05-17 13:38       ` Guenter Roeck
2021-05-17 13:55         ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2021-05-17 14:18           ` Guenter Roeck
2021-05-19  0:26             ` Michael Ellerman
2021-05-19  0:45               ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-05-19 12:03                 ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-05-19 13:37                   ` Guenter Roeck
2021-05-19 14:20                     ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-05-19 15:28                       ` Guenter Roeck
2021-05-20  7:37                   ` Michael Ellerman
2021-05-20 12:17                     ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-05-19  1:08               ` Guenter Roeck
2021-05-20 11:38                 ` Michael Ellerman
2021-05-20 11:56                   ` Guenter Roeck
2021-04-22  5:43 ` [PATCH v5 6/9] mm/mremap: Use range flush that does TLB and page walk cache flush Aneesh Kumar K.V
2021-04-22  5:43 ` [PATCH v5 7/9] mm/mremap: Move TLB flush outside page table lock Aneesh Kumar K.V
2021-05-20 15:26   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2021-05-20 16:57     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2021-05-21  2:40       ` Linus Torvalds
2021-05-21  3:03         ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2021-05-21  3:28           ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2021-05-21  6:13           ` Linus Torvalds
2021-05-21 12:50             ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2021-05-21 13:03               ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2021-05-21 16:03                 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-05-21 16:29                   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2021-05-24 14:24                   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2021-05-21 15:24               ` Liam Howlett [this message]
2021-05-21 16:02                 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2021-05-21 16:05                 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-04-22  5:43 ` [PATCH v5 8/9] mm/mremap: Allow arch runtime override Aneesh Kumar K.V
2021-04-22  5:43 ` [PATCH v5 9/9] powerpc/mm: Enable move pmd/pud Aneesh Kumar K.V
2021-05-11 22:19   ` Andrew Morton

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