From: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
To: Yang Shi <shy828301@gmail.com>
Cc: Gerald Schaefer <gerald.schaefer@linux.ibm.com>,
"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
Huang Ying <ying.huang@intel.com>,
Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
hca@linux.ibm.com, gor@linux.ibm.com, borntraeger@de.ibm.com,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
linux-s390@vger.kernel.org,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Alexander Gordeev <agordeev@linux.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] mm: thp: use generic THP migration for NUMA hinting fault
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2021 09:32:16 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210407083216.GB15768@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHbLzkr2+CnY8+ENB_Hvt7kJPKNq3H2aG=RsOBmBE_dYciqstw@mail.gmail.com>
On Tue, Apr 06, 2021 at 09:42:07AM -0700, Yang Shi wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 5:03 AM Gerald Schaefer
> <gerald.schaefer@linux.ibm.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 1 Apr 2021 13:10:49 -0700
> > Yang Shi <shy828301@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > [...]
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes, it could be. The old behavior of migration was to return -ENOMEM
> > > > > if THP migration is not supported then split THP. That behavior was
> > > > > not very friendly to some usecases, for example, memory policy and
> > > > > migration lieu of reclaim (the upcoming). But I don't mean we restore
> > > > > the old behavior. We could split THP if it returns -ENOSYS and the
> > > > > page is THP.
> > > >
> > > > OK, as long as we don't get any broken PMD migration entries established
> > > > for s390, some extra THP splitting would be acceptable I guess.
> > >
> > > There will be no migration PMD installed. The current behavior is a
> > > no-op if THP migration is not supported.
> >
> > Ok, just for completeness, since Mel also replied that the split
> > was not done on other architectures "because the loss from splitting
> > exceeded the gain of improved locality":
> >
> > I did not mean to request extra splitting functionality for s390,
> > simply skipping / ignoring large PMDs would also be fine for s390,
> > no need to add extra complexity.
>
> Thank you. It could make life easier. The current code still converts
> huge PMD to RPOTNONE even though THP migration is not supported. It is
> easy to skip such PMDs hence cycles are saved for pointless NUMA
> hinting page faults.
>
> Will do so in v2 if no objection from Mel as well.
I did not get a chance to review this in time but if a v2 shows up,
I'll at least run it through a battery of tests to measure the impact
and hopefully find the time to do a proper review. Superficially I'm not
opposed to using generic code for migration because even if it shows up a
problem, it would be better to optimise the generic implementation than
carry two similar implementations. I'm undecided on whether s390 should
split+migrate rather than skip because I do not have a good overview of
"typical workloads on s390 that benefit from NUMA balancing".
--
Mel Gorman
SUSE Labs
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-04-07 8:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-03-29 18:33 Yang Shi
2021-03-29 18:33 ` [PATCH 1/6] mm: memory: add orig_pmd to struct vm_fault Yang Shi
2021-03-29 18:33 ` [PATCH 2/6] mm: memory: make numa_migrate_prep() non-static Yang Shi
2021-03-29 18:33 ` [PATCH 3/6] mm: migrate: teach migrate_misplaced_page() about THP Yang Shi
2021-03-30 0:21 ` Huang, Ying
2021-03-30 16:57 ` Yang Shi
2021-03-29 18:33 ` [PATCH 4/6] mm: thp: refactor NUMA fault handling Yang Shi
2021-03-30 0:41 ` Huang, Ying
2021-03-30 17:02 ` Yang Shi
2021-03-29 18:33 ` [PATCH 5/6] mm: migrate: don't split THP for misplaced NUMA page Yang Shi
2021-03-30 14:42 ` Gerald Schaefer
2021-03-30 16:53 ` Yang Shi
2021-03-29 18:33 ` [PATCH 6/6] mm: migrate: remove redundant page count check for THP Yang Shi
2021-03-30 14:42 ` [RFC PATCH 0/6] mm: thp: use generic THP migration for NUMA hinting fault Gerald Schaefer
2021-03-30 16:51 ` Yang Shi
2021-03-31 11:47 ` Gerald Schaefer
2021-04-01 20:10 ` Yang Shi
2021-04-06 12:02 ` Gerald Schaefer
2021-04-06 16:42 ` Yang Shi
2021-04-07 8:32 ` Mel Gorman [this message]
2021-04-07 16:04 ` Yang Shi
2021-03-31 13:20 ` Mel Gorman
2021-04-01 20:12 ` Yang Shi
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