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Wed, 20 Jan 2021 05:22:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from ziepe.ca ([206.223.160.26]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id r190sm1313094qka.54.2021.01.20.05.22.24 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 20 Jan 2021 05:22:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from jgg by mlx with local (Exim 4.94) (envelope-from ) id 1l2DRH-004Tyo-Ee; Wed, 20 Jan 2021 09:22:23 -0400 Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2021 09:22:23 -0400 From: Jason Gunthorpe To: Pavel Tatashin Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org, vbabka@suse.cz, mhocko@suse.com, david@redhat.com, osalvador@suse.de, dan.j.williams@intel.com, sashal@kernel.org, tyhicks@linux.microsoft.com, iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com, mike.kravetz@oracle.com, rostedt@goodmis.org, mingo@redhat.com, peterz@infradead.org, mgorman@suse.de, willy@infradead.org, rientjes@google.com, jhubbard@nvidia.com, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, ira.weiny@intel.com, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 10/14] memory-hotplug.rst: add a note about ZONE_MOVABLE and page pinning Message-ID: <20210120132223.GH4605@ziepe.ca> References: <20210120014333.222547-1-pasha.tatashin@soleen.com> <20210120014333.222547-11-pasha.tatashin@soleen.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20210120014333.222547-11-pasha.tatashin@soleen.com> X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.2.4 Sender: owner-linux-mm@kvack.org Precedence: bulk X-Loop: owner-majordomo@kvack.org List-ID: On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 08:43:29PM -0500, Pavel Tatashin wrote: > +.. note:: > + Techniques that rely on long-term pinnings of memory (especially, RDMA and > + vfio) are fundamentally problematic with ZONE_MOVABLE and, therefore, memory > + hot remove. Pinned pages cannot reside on ZONE_MOVABLE, to guarantee that > + memory can still get hot removed - be aware that pinning can fail even if > + there is plenty of free memory in ZONE_MOVABLE. In addition, using > + ZONE_MOVABLE might make page pinning more expensive, because pages have to be > + migrated off that zone first. Just to point out, if anyone is using RDMA/etc with hotplug memory, this series is likekly going to be a major regression for those users. Jason