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From: Aili Yao <yaoaili@kingsoft.com>
To: "HORIGUCHI NAOYA(堀口 直也)" <naoya.horiguchi@nec.com>
Cc: Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"yangfeng1@kingsoft.com" <yangfeng1@kingsoft.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm,hwpoison: non-current task should be checked early_kill for force_early
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2021 13:57:44 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210118135744.7413cd06.yaoaili@kingsoft.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210118051555.GA3585@hori.linux.bs1.fc.nec.co.jp>

On Mon, 18 Jan 2021 05:15:55 +0000
HORIGUCHI NAOYA(堀口 直也) <naoya.horiguchi@nec.com> wrote:

> Hi Aili,
> 
> On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 05:26:22PM +0800, Aili Yao wrote:
> > On Fri, 15 Jan 2021 09:49:24 +0100
> > Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de> wrote:
> >   
> > > I am having a hard time trying to grasp what are you trying to achieve here.
> > > Could you elaborate some more? Ideally stating what is the problem you are
> > > fixing here.
> > >   
> > Sorry for confusion, example: there are four process A,B,C,D,which map the same file into
> > there process space, which set there PF_MCE_KILL_EARLY flag to TRUE, if process A trigger one
> > UE with  MF_ACTION_REQUIRED set, in current code, only process A will be killed, B,C,D remain
> > alive, but for the PF_MCE_KILL_EARLY we set, we want B,C,D also be killed.  
> 
> This behavior seems not to me what PF_MCE_KILL_EARLY intends.  This flag
> controls whether memory error handler kills processes immediately or not,
> and it only affects action optional cases (i.e. called without
> MF_ACTION_REQUIRED).  In MF_ACTION_REQUIRED case, we have no such choice
> and affected processes should be always killed immediately.
> 
> We may also need to consider the difference in context of these two cases.
> Action optional case is called asynchronously by background process like
> memory scrubbing, so all processes mapping the error memory are the affected
> ones.  Action required event is more synchronous, and is called when a
> process experiences memory access errors on data load and instruction fetch
> instructions.  So the affected process in this case is only the process.
> So I still think the this background justifies the current behavior.
> 
> But my knowledge might be old, if you have newer hardwares which define
> other type of memory error and that doesn't fit with current implementation,
> I'd like to extend code to support the new cases, so please let me know.
> 
Sorry, I don't fully get your concern.

For Action optional cases, It's may from CE storm or patrol scrub, when the process want to process this condition,
it will set PF_MCE_KILL_EARLY, and it will be signaled for such case.
For Action Required cases,we must do something, I think it's more urgent and serious, In the current code, the process triggered the Error
Should be signaled. but the process with PF_MCE_KILL_EARLY won't get signaled, just because PF_MCE_KILL_EARLY is for action optional case?

Action Required is for current we must handle, the same Action Required issue is Action optional for non-current processes, Right?
I don't think Action Required is for all processes, For current processes , it may be AR, for other process, it may be AO, and they should also
be signaled, I think this behavior its reasonable. 

And we can't determine which error will be triggered, the PF_MCE_KILL_EARLY fLAG is meant to handle memory error gracefully and won't be restricted
to explicitly declared AO errors.

Thanks!

-- 
Best Regards!

Aili Yao


  reply	other threads:[~2021-01-18  5:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-15  7:55 Aili Yao
2021-01-15  8:49 ` Oscar Salvador
2021-01-15  9:26   ` Aili Yao
2021-01-15  9:31     ` Aili Yao
2021-01-15  9:40       ` Oscar Salvador
2021-01-15  9:53         ` Aili Yao
2021-01-15 10:31     ` Oscar Salvador
2021-01-18  5:15     ` HORIGUCHI NAOYA(堀口 直也)
2021-01-18  5:57       ` Aili Yao [this message]
2021-01-18  6:50         ` HORIGUCHI NAOYA(堀口 直也)
2021-01-18  7:16           ` Aili Yao
2021-01-18  8:15           ` Aili Yao
2021-01-18  8:57             ` HORIGUCHI NAOYA(堀口 直也)
2021-01-18  9:09               ` Aili Yao
2021-01-19  5:25                 ` HORIGUCHI NAOYA(堀口 直也)
2021-01-19  6:04                   ` Aili Yao
2021-01-19  7:33                     ` HORIGUCHI NAOYA(堀口 直也)
2021-01-18  9:24               ` Oscar Salvador
2021-01-18  9:38                 ` Aili Yao
2021-01-18 10:09                   ` Oscar Salvador
2021-01-19  4:21               ` Aili Yao

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