From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>
Cc: hughd@google.com, xuyu@linux.alibaba.com,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, mgorman@suse.de, aarcange@redhat.com,
willy@infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
kernel-team@fb.com, linux-mm@kvack.org, vbabka@suse.cz
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] mm,thp,shm: limit gfp mask to no more than specified
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2020 11:00:53 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201130100053.GD17338@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1f089a155d7501fb156da34744d282ae1f3d02f7.camel@surriel.com>
On Fri 27-11-20 14:03:39, Rik van Riel wrote:
> On Fri, 2020-11-27 at 08:52 +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > On Thu 26-11-20 13:04:14, Rik van Riel wrote:
> > >
> > > I would be more than happy to implement things differently,
> > > but I am not sure what alternative you are suggesting.
> >
> > Simply do not alter gfp flags? Or warn in some cases of a serious
> > mismatch.
> > E.g. GFP_ZONEMASK mismatch because there are already GFP_KERNEL users
> > of
> > shmem.
>
> Not altering the gfp flags is not really an option,
> because that would leads to attempting to allocate THPs
> with GFP_HIGHUSER, which is what is used to allocate
> regular tmpfs pages.
Right but that is a completely different reason to alter the mask and it
would be really great to know whether this is a theoretical concern or
those users simply do not ever use THPs. Btw. should they be using THPs
even if they opt themselves into GFP_KERNEL restriction?
> If the THP configuration in sysfs says we should
> not
> be doing compaction/reclaim from THP allocations, we
> should obey that configuration setting, and use a
> gfp_flags that results in no compaction/reclaim being done.
Yes, I agree with that. The thing I disagree with is that you try to mix
how hard to try also from the shmem users which are not really THP aware
and they merely want to control how hard to try to order-0 pages. Or
more precisely whether to invoke OOM killer before doing their fallback.
So your patch adds a very subtle behavior that would be really hard to
maintain long term because the way how hart to compact is completely
detached from users who use the gfp mask.
--
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-11-30 10:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-11-24 19:49 [PATCH v6 0/3] mm,thp,shm: limit shmem THP alloc gfp_mask Rik van Riel
2020-11-24 19:49 ` [PATCH 1/3] mm,thp,shmem: " Rik van Riel
2020-11-26 16:56 ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-11-27 8:15 ` Michal Hocko
2020-11-24 19:49 ` [PATCH 2/3] mm,thp,shm: limit gfp mask to no more than specified Rik van Riel
2020-11-26 13:40 ` Michal Hocko
2020-11-26 18:04 ` Rik van Riel
2020-11-27 7:52 ` Michal Hocko
2020-11-27 19:03 ` Rik van Riel
2020-11-30 10:00 ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2020-11-30 14:40 ` Rik van Riel
2020-11-24 19:49 ` [PATCH 3/3] mm,thp,shmem: make khugepaged obey tmpfs mount flags Rik van Riel
2020-11-26 17:18 ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-11-26 18:14 ` Rik van Riel
2020-11-26 19:42 ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-11-26 20:14 ` Rik van Riel
2020-12-14 21:16 ` [PATCH v6 0/3] mm,thp,shm: limit shmem THP alloc gfp_mask Hugh Dickins
2020-12-14 22:20 ` Andrew Morton
2020-12-14 22:52 ` Vlastimil Babka
2021-02-24 8:41 ` Hugh Dickins
2021-02-24 14:46 ` Rik van Riel
2021-02-24 16:55 ` Hugh Dickins
2021-02-24 17:10 ` [PATCH 4/3] mm,shmem,thp: limit shmem THP allocations to requested zones Rik van Riel
2021-02-26 12:34 ` Vlastimil Babka
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