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From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: Don't fault around userfaultfd-registered regions on reads
Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2020 12:22:24 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201127122224.GX4327@casper.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201126222359.8120-1-peterx@redhat.com>

On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 05:23:59PM -0500, Peter Xu wrote:
> For missing mode uffds, fault around does not help because if the page cache
> existed, then the page should be there already.  If the page cache is not
> there, nothing else we can do, either.  If the fault-around code is destined to
> be helpless for userfault-missing vmas, then ideally we can skip it.

But it might have been faulted into the cache by another task, so skipping
it is bad.

> For wr-protected mode uffds, errornously fault in those pages around could lead
> to threads accessing the pages without uffd server's awareness.  For example,
> when punching holes on uffd-wp registered shmem regions, we'll first try to
> unmap all the pages before evicting the page cache but without locking the
> page (please refer to shmem_fallocate(), where unmap_mapping_range() is called
> before shmem_truncate_range()).  When fault-around happens near a hole being
> punched, we might errornously fault in the "holes" right before it will be
> punched.  Then there's a small window before the page cache was finally
> dropped, and after the page will be writable again (NOTE: the uffd-wp protect
> information is totally lost due to the pre-unmap in shmem_fallocate(), so the
> page can be writable within the small window).  That's severe data loss.

Sounds like you have a missing page_mkwrite implementation.

> This patch comes from debugging a data loss issue when working on the uffd-wp
> support on shmem/hugetlbfs.  I posted this out for early review and comments,
> but also because it should already start to benefit missing mode userfaultfd to
> avoid trying to fault around on reads.

A measurable difference?


  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-11-27 12:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-26 22:23 Peter Xu
2020-11-27  8:16 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-11-27 13:31   ` Peter Xu
2020-11-27 12:22 ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2020-11-27 13:51   ` Peter Xu
2020-11-28  0:33   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-11-28 15:29     ` Peter Xu
2020-12-01 19:08       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-01 21:31       ` Hugh Dickins
2020-12-01 23:42         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-11-27 17:00 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-11-27 18:28   ` Peter Xu

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