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From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: Roman Gushchin <guro@fb.com>
Cc: Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org,
	"Kirill A . Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
	Yang Shi <shy828301@gmail.com>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
	Ralph Campbell <rcampbell@nvidia.com>,
	David Nellans <dnellans@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 3/6] mm: page_owner: add support for splitting to any order in split page_owner.
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2020 21:43:45 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201117214345.GB29991@casper.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201117213537.GB156448@carbon.DHCP.thefacebook.com>

On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 01:35:37PM -0800, Roman Gushchin wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 09:22:55PM +0000, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 04:12:03PM -0500, Zi Yan wrote:
> > > On 17 Nov 2020, at 16:05, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > > 
> > > > On Fri, Nov 13, 2020 at 05:38:01PM -0800, Roman Gushchin wrote:
> > > >> On Fri, Nov 13, 2020 at 08:08:58PM -0500, Zi Yan wrote:
> > > >>> Matthew recently converted split_page_owner to take nr instead of order.[1]
> > > >>> But I am not
> > > >>> sure why, since it seems to me that two call sites (__split_huge_page in
> > > >>> mm/huge_memory.c and split_page in mm/page_alloc.c) can pass the order
> > > >>> information.
> > > >>
> > > >> Yeah, I'm not sure why too. Maybe Matthew has some input here?
> > > >> You can also pass new_nr, but IMO orders look so much better here.
> > > >
> > > > If only I'd written that information in the changelog ... oh wait, I did!
> > > >
> > > >     mm/page_owner: change split_page_owner to take a count
> > > >
> > > >     The implementation of split_page_owner() prefers a count rather than the
> > > >     old order of the page.  When we support a variable size THP, we won't
> > > >     have the order at this point, but we will have the number of pages.
> > > >     So change the interface to what the caller and callee would prefer.
> > > 
> > > There are two callers, split_page in mm/page_alloc.c and __split_huge_page in
> > > mm/huge_memory.c. The former has the page order. The latter has the page order
> > > information before __split_huge_page_tail is called, so we can do
> > > old_order = thp_order(head) instead of nr = thp_nr_page(head) and use old_order.
> > > What am I missing there?
> > 
> > Sure, we could also do that.  But what I wrote was true at the time I
> > wrote it.
> 
> Sure, I was asking about if you're ok with going back to orders or there are better
> ideas. I'm sorry if it wasn't clear and sounded differently.
> 
> It just seems to me than a function is taking nr and order (as in Zi's last version),
> I'd expect that it's a number of pages of given order, or something like this.
> So I'd avoid mixing them. Orders are slightly better if nr is always a power of two,
> it's just more obvious from looking at the code.

I think it's awkward no matter which way round we do it.

If we pass old_order, new_order then we create extra work for both caller
and callee.

If we pass old_nr, new_order, it looks weird for humans.

At the end of the day, I'm not that invested in which we do.


  reply	other threads:[~2020-11-17 21:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-11 20:40 [RFC PATCH 0/6] Split huge pages to any lower order pages Zi Yan
2020-11-11 20:40 ` [RFC PATCH 1/6] mm: huge_memory: add new debugfs interface to trigger split huge page on any page range Zi Yan
2020-11-12 22:22   ` Ralph Campbell
2020-11-12 22:38     ` Zi Yan
2020-11-16 16:06   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2020-11-16 17:26     ` Zi Yan
2020-11-11 20:40 ` [RFC PATCH 2/6] mm: memcg: make memcg huge page split support any order split Zi Yan
2020-11-12 17:58   ` Ralph Campbell
2020-11-12 18:00     ` Zi Yan
2020-11-14  0:23   ` Roman Gushchin
2020-11-14  0:56     ` Zi Yan
2020-11-11 20:40 ` [RFC PATCH 3/6] mm: page_owner: add support for splitting to any order in split page_owner Zi Yan
2020-11-12 17:57   ` Ralph Campbell
2020-11-12 17:59     ` Zi Yan
2020-11-14  0:15   ` Roman Gushchin
2020-11-14  1:08     ` Zi Yan
2020-11-14  1:38       ` Roman Gushchin
2020-11-17 21:05         ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-11-17 21:12           ` Zi Yan
2020-11-17 21:22             ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-11-17 21:25               ` Zi Yan
2020-11-17 21:35               ` Roman Gushchin
2020-11-17 21:43                 ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2020-11-16 16:25   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2020-11-16 17:27     ` Zi Yan
2020-11-17 21:10   ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-11-17 21:13     ` Zi Yan
2020-11-11 20:40 ` [RFC PATCH 4/6] mm: thp: add support for split huge page to any lower order pages Zi Yan
2020-11-12 22:01   ` Ralph Campbell
2020-11-12 22:20     ` Zi Yan
2020-11-14  0:52   ` Roman Gushchin
2020-11-14  1:00     ` Zi Yan
2020-11-11 20:40 ` [RFC PATCH 5/6] mm: truncate: split thp to a non-zero order if possible Zi Yan
2020-11-12 22:08   ` Ralph Campbell
2020-11-12 22:37     ` Zi Yan
2020-11-11 20:40 ` [RFC PATCH 6/6] mm: huge_memory: enable debugfs to split huge pages to any order Zi Yan

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