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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@gmail.com>, minchan@kernel.org
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: account lazily freed anon pages in NR_FILE_PAGES
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2020 16:22:51 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201105152251.GL21348@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALOAHbCmH7sX97NNi-8P2s+vSxikSA50qan_i34uoviXZKcb_A@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu 05-11-20 22:16:10, Yafang Shao wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 5, 2020 at 9:35 PM Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu 05-11-20 21:10:12, Yafang Shao wrote:
> > > The memory utilization (Used / Total) is used to monitor the memory
> > > pressure by us. If it is too high, it means the system may be OOM sooner
> > > or later when swap is off, then we will make adjustment on this system.
> > >
> > > However, this method is broken since MADV_FREE is introduced, because
> > > these lazily free anonymous can be reclaimed under memory pressure while
> > > they are still accounted in NR_ANON_MAPPED.
> > >
> > > Furthermore, since commit f7ad2a6cb9f7 ("mm: move MADV_FREE pages into
> > > LRU_INACTIVE_FILE list"), these lazily free anonymous pages are moved
> > > from anon lru list into file lru list. That means
> > > (Inactive(file) + Active(file)) may be much larger than Cached in
> > > /proc/meminfo. That makes our users confused.
> > >
> > > So we'd better account the lazily freed anonoymous pages in
> > > NR_FILE_PAGES as well.
> >
> > Can you simply subtract lazyfree pages in the userspace?
> 
> Could you pls. tell me how to subtract lazyfree pages in the userspace?
> Pls. note that we can't use (pglazyfree - pglazyfreed) because
> pglazyfreed is only counted in the regular reclaim path while the
> process exit path is not counted, that means we have to introduce
> another counter like LazyPage....

OK, I see your concern. I thought that we do update counters on a
regular unmap. I do not see any reason why we shouldn't. It is indeed
bad that we cannot tell the current number of lazy free pages by no
means. Was this deliberate Minchan?
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs


  reply	other threads:[~2020-11-05 15:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-05 13:10 Yafang Shao
2020-11-05 13:35 ` Michal Hocko
2020-11-05 14:16   ` Yafang Shao
2020-11-05 15:22     ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2020-11-05 17:47       ` Michal Hocko
2020-11-05 15:18 ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-11-06  1:57   ` Yafang Shao
2020-11-05 16:22 ` Johannes Weiner
2020-11-06  2:09   ` Yafang Shao

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