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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: Chris Goldsworthy <cgoldswo@codeaurora.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>, Nitin Gupta <ngupta@vflare.org>,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] Increasing CMA Utilization with a GFP Flag
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2020 20:58:36 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201103195836.GL21990@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201102144449.GM27442@casper.infradead.org>

On Mon 02-11-20 14:44:49, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 02, 2020 at 06:39:20AM -0800, Chris Goldsworthy wrote:
> > The current approach to increasing CMA utilization introduced in
> > commit 16867664936e ("mm,page_alloc,cma: conditionally prefer cma
> > pageblocks for movable allocations") increases CMA utilization by
> > redirecting MIGRATE_MOVABLE allocations to a CMA region, when
> > greater than half of the free pages in a given zone are CMA pages.
> > The issue in this approach is that allocations with type
> > MIGRATE_MOVABLE can still succumb to pinning. To get around
> > this, one approach is to re-direct allocations to the CMA areas, that
> > are known not to be victims of pinning.
> > 
> > To this end, this series brings in __GFP_CMA, which we mark with
> > allocations that we know are safe to be redirected to a CMA area.
> 
> This feels backwards to me.  What you're essentially saying is "Some
> allocations marked with GFP_MOVABLE turn out not to be movable, so we're
> going to add another GFP_REALLY_MOVABLE flag" instead of tracking down
> which GFP_MOVABLE allocations aren't really movable.

Absolutely agreed. What is even worse the proposed approach doesn't
really add any new guarantee. Just look at how the new flag is used for
any anonymous page and that is a subject to a long term pinning as well.
So in the end a new and confusing gfp flag is proposed that doesn't
really help with the underlying problem.

Nacked-by: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs


      parent reply	other threads:[~2020-11-03 19:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-02 14:39 Chris Goldsworthy
2020-11-02 14:39 ` [PATCH 1/2] cma: redirect page allocation to CMA Chris Goldsworthy
2020-11-03  5:30   ` [cma] 1ea6c22c9b: page_allocation_failure:order:#,mode:#(__GFP_RECLAIMABLE),nodemask=(null) kernel test robot
2020-11-03 18:53     ` David Rientjes
2020-11-02 14:39 ` [PATCH 2/2] zram: allow zram to allocate CMA pages Chris Goldsworthy
2020-11-02 14:44 ` [PATCH 0/2] Increasing CMA Utilization with a GFP Flag Matthew Wilcox
2020-11-02 17:35   ` David Hildenbrand
2020-11-03 19:58   ` Michal Hocko [this message]

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