From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: "Yu, Yu-cheng" <yu-cheng.yu@intel.com>
Cc: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v12 8/8] x86: Disallow vsyscall emulation when CET is enabled
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2020 23:22:58 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200918212258.GD4304@duo.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <862eef02-eba2-e13f-ed67-f915f749ebca@intel.com>
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On Fri 2020-09-18 14:21:10, Yu, Yu-cheng wrote:
> On 9/18/2020 2:00 PM, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > On Fri 2020-09-18 12:32:57, Dave Hansen wrote:
> > > On 9/18/20 12:23 PM, Yu-cheng Yu wrote:
> > > > Emulation of the legacy vsyscall page is required by some programs
> > > > built before 2013. Newer programs after 2013 don't use it.
> > > > Disable vsyscall emulation when Control-flow Enforcement (CET) is
> > > > enabled to enhance security.
> > >
> > > How does this "enhance security"?
> > >
> > > What is the connection between vsyscall emulation and CET?
> >
> > Boom.
> >
> > We don't break compatibility by default, and you should not tell
> > people to enable CET by default if you plan to do this.
>
> I would revise the wording if there is another version. What this patch
> does is:
>
> If an application is compiled for CET and the system supports it, then the
> application cannot do vsyscall emulation. Earlier we allow the emulation,
> and had a patch that fixes the shadow stack and endbr for the emulation
> code. Since newer programs mostly do no do the emulation, we changed the
> patch do block it when attempted.
>
> This patch would not block any legacy applications or any applications on
> older machines.
Aha, makes sense, sorry for the noise.
Best regards,
Pavel
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Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-09-18 19:23 [PATCH v12 0/8] Control-flow Enforcement: Indirect Branch Tracking Yu-cheng Yu
2020-09-18 19:23 ` [PATCH v12 1/8] x86/cet/ibt: Add Kconfig option for user-mode " Yu-cheng Yu
2020-09-18 20:24 ` Randy Dunlap
2020-09-18 20:59 ` Pavel Machek
2020-09-18 21:08 ` H.J. Lu
2020-09-18 21:24 ` Pavel Machek
2020-09-18 21:36 ` H.J. Lu
2020-09-18 21:25 ` Yu, Yu-cheng
2020-09-18 21:40 ` Pavel Machek
2020-09-18 21:46 ` H.J. Lu
2020-09-18 22:03 ` Pavel Machek
2020-09-21 22:30 ` Yu, Yu-cheng
2020-09-21 22:41 ` Dave Hansen
2020-09-21 22:47 ` Yu, Yu-cheng
2020-09-21 22:54 ` Dave Hansen
2020-09-21 23:27 ` Yu, Yu-cheng
2020-09-21 22:52 ` Pavel Machek
2020-09-21 22:58 ` Dave Hansen
2020-09-18 19:23 ` [PATCH v12 2/8] x86/cet/ibt: User-mode Indirect Branch Tracking support Yu-cheng Yu
2020-09-18 19:23 ` [PATCH v12 3/8] x86/cet/ibt: Handle signals for Indirect Branch Tracking Yu-cheng Yu
2020-09-18 19:23 ` [PATCH v12 4/8] x86/cet/ibt: ELF header parsing " Yu-cheng Yu
2020-09-18 19:23 ` [PATCH v12 5/8] x86/cet/ibt: Update arch_prctl functions " Yu-cheng Yu
2020-09-18 19:23 ` [PATCH v12 6/8] x86/vdso/32: Add ENDBR32 to __kernel_vsyscall entry point Yu-cheng Yu
2020-09-18 19:23 ` [PATCH v12 7/8] x86/vdso: Insert endbr32/endbr64 to vDSO Yu-cheng Yu
2020-09-18 19:23 ` [PATCH v12 8/8] x86: Disallow vsyscall emulation when CET is enabled Yu-cheng Yu
2020-09-18 19:32 ` Dave Hansen
2020-09-18 21:00 ` Pavel Machek
2020-09-18 21:06 ` H.J. Lu
2020-09-18 21:17 ` Dave Hansen
2020-09-18 21:22 ` H.J. Lu
2020-09-18 21:28 ` Dave Hansen
2020-09-18 21:21 ` Yu, Yu-cheng
2020-09-18 21:22 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2020-09-19 0:11 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-21 16:22 ` Yu, Yu-cheng
2020-09-21 22:37 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2020-09-21 23:48 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-22 17:45 ` Yu, Yu-cheng
2020-09-23 21:34 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-23 22:07 ` Yu, Yu-cheng
2020-09-23 21:29 ` Sean Christopherson
2020-09-23 22:06 ` Yu, Yu-cheng
2020-09-23 22:08 ` Dave Hansen
2020-09-23 22:20 ` Yu, Yu-cheng
2020-09-23 22:47 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-23 22:53 ` Dave Hansen
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