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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Vijay Balakrishna <vijayb@linux.microsoft.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>, Song Liu <songliubraving@fb.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Pavel Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>,
	Allen Pais <apais@microsoft.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [[PATCH]] mm: khugepaged: recalculate min_free_kbytes after memory hotplug as expected by khugepaged
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2020 10:18:32 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200915081832.GA4649@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c6fcc196-ce7f-1f48-e9bd-c18448272df1@linux.microsoft.com>

On Mon 14-09-20 09:57:02, Vijay Balakrishna wrote:
> 
> 
> On 9/14/2020 7:33 AM, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > On Thu 10-09-20 13:47:39, Vijay Balakrishna wrote:
> > > When memory is hotplug added or removed the min_free_kbytes must be
> > > recalculated based on what is expected by khugepaged.  Currently
> > > after hotplug, min_free_kbytes will be set to a lower default and higher
> > > default set when THP enabled is lost. This leaves the system with small
> > > min_free_kbytes which isn't suitable for systems especially with network
> > > intensive loads.  Typical failure symptoms include HW WATCHDOG reset,
> > > soft lockup hang notices, NETDEVICE WATCHDOG timeouts, and OOM process
> > > kills.
> > 
> > Care to explain some more please? The whole point of increasing
> > min_free_kbytes for THP is to get a larger free memory with a hope that
> > huge pages will be more likely to appear. While this might help for
> > other users that need a high order pages it is definitely not the
> > primary reason behind it. Could you provide an example with some more
> > data?
> 
> Thanks Michal.  I haven't looked into THP as part of my investigation, so I
> cannot comment.
> 
> In our use case we are hotplug removing ~2GB of 8GB total (on our SoC)
> during normal reboot/shutdown.  This memory is hotplug hot-added as movable
> type via systemd late service during start-of-day.
> 
> In our stress test first we ran into HW WATCHDOG recovery, on enabling
> kernel watchdog we started seeing soft lockup hung task notices, failure
> symptons varied, where stack trace of hung tasks sometimes trying to
> allocate GFP_ATOMIC memory, looping in do_notify_resume, NETDEVICE WATCHDOG
> timeouts, OOM process kills etc.,  During investigation we reran stress test
> without hotplug use case.  Surprisingly this run didn't encounter the said
> problems.  This led to comparing what is different between the two runs,
> while looking at various globals, studying hotplug code I uncovered the
> issue of failing to restore min_free_kbytes.  In particular on our 8GB SoC
> min_free_kbytes went down to 8703 from 22528 after hotplug add.

Did you try to increase min_free_kbytes manually after hot remove? Btw.
I would consider oom killer invocation due to min_free_kbytes really
weird behavior. If anything the higher value would cause more memory
reclaim and potentially oom rather than smaller one.
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs


  reply	other threads:[~2020-09-15  8:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-10 20:47 Vijay Balakrishna
2020-09-10 22:01 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2020-09-10 22:28   ` Pavel Tatashin
2020-09-10 22:56     ` Vijay Balakrishna
2020-09-15  5:04   ` Vijay Balakrishna
2020-09-14 14:33 ` Michal Hocko
2020-09-14 16:57   ` Vijay Balakrishna
2020-09-15  8:18     ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2020-09-15 15:48       ` Vijay Balakrishna
2020-09-16  6:53         ` Michal Hocko
2020-09-16 18:28           ` Vijay Balakrishna
2020-09-17 12:12             ` Michal Hocko
2020-09-17 18:03               ` Vijay Balakrishna
2020-09-18  5:45                 ` Michal Hocko
2020-09-18 15:32                   ` Vijay Balakrishna
2020-09-21  7:00                     ` Michal Hocko
2020-09-15 18:22 ` Pavel Tatashin

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