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Biederman" , Michal Hocko , Tetsuo Handa , Christian Brauner , Tim Murray , mingo@kernel.org, Peter Zijlstra , Thomas Gleixner , esyr@redhat.com, christian@kellner.me, areber@redhat.com, Shakeel Butt , cyphar@cyphar.com, adobriyan@gmail.com, Andrew Morton , gladkov.alexey@gmail.com, Michel Lespinasse , daniel.m.jordan@oracle.com, avagin@gmail.com, bernd.edlinger@hotmail.de, John Johansen , laoar.shao@gmail.com, Minchan Kim , kernel-team , LKML , linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] mm, oom_adj: don't loop through tasks in __set_oom_adj when not necessary Message-ID: <20200821163724.GC19445@redhat.com> References: <20200820140054.fdkbotd4tgfrqpe6@wittgenstein> <637ab0e7-e686-0c94-753b-b97d24bb8232@i-love.sakura.ne.jp> <87k0xtv0d4.fsf@x220.int.ebiederm.org> <20200820162645.GP5033@dhcp22.suse.cz> <87r1s0txxe.fsf@x220.int.ebiederm.org> <20200821111558.GG4546@redhat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.84 on 10.5.11.22 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 0DD3D18229835 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.00 / 100.00] X-Rspamd-Server: rspam02 X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.2.4 Sender: owner-linux-mm@kvack.org Precedence: bulk X-Loop: owner-majordomo@kvack.org List-ID: again, don't really understand... On 08/21, Suren Baghdasaryan wrote: > > Actually, reviewing again and considering where list_add_tail_rcu is > happening, maybe the race with clone(CLONE_VM) does not introduce > false negatives. I think it does... Whatever we check, mm_users or MMF_PROC_SHARED, the task can do clone(CLONE_VM) right after the check. > However a false negative I think will happen when a > task shares mm with another task and also has an additional thread. > Shared mm will increment mm_users without adding to signal->live Yes, > and > the additional thread will advance signal->live without adding to > mm_users. No, please note that CLONE_THREAD requires CLONE_VM. Oleg.