From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: Daniel Jordan <daniel.m.jordan@oracle.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
Pavel Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Steven Sistare <steven.sistare@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] x86/mm: use max memory block size on bare metal
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2020 14:07:04 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200619120704.GD12177@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200609225451.3542648-1-daniel.m.jordan@oracle.com>
On Tue 09-06-20 18:54:51, Daniel Jordan wrote:
[...]
> @@ -1390,6 +1391,15 @@ static unsigned long probe_memory_block_size(void)
> goto done;
> }
>
> + /*
> + * Use max block size to minimize overhead on bare metal, where
> + * alignment for memory hotplug isn't a concern.
This really begs a clarification why this is not a concern. Bare metal
can see physical memory hotadd as well. I just suspect that you do not
consider that to be very common so it is not a big deal? And I would
tend to agree but still we are just going to wait until first user
stumbles over this.
Btw. memblock interface just doesn't scale and it is a terrible
interface for large machines and for the memory hotplug in general (just
look at ppc and their insanely small memblocks).
Most usecases I have seen simply want to either offline some portion of
memory without a strong requirement of the physical memory range as long
as it is from a particular node or simply offline and remove the full
node.
I believe that we should think about a future interface rather than
trying to ducktape the blocksize anytime it causes problems. I would be
even tempted to simply add a kernel command line option
memory_hotplug=disable,legacy,new_shiny
for disable it would simply drop all the sysfs crud and speed up boot
for most users who simply do not care about memory hotplug. new_shiny
would ideally provide an interface that would either export logically
hotplugable memory ranges (e.g. DIMMs) or a query/action interface which
accepts physical ranges as input. Having gazillions of sysfs files is
simply unsustainable.
--
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-06-19 12:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-06-09 22:54 Daniel Jordan
2020-06-09 23:03 ` Daniel Jordan
2020-06-10 7:20 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-06-10 7:30 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-06-10 17:16 ` Daniel Jordan
2020-06-11 14:16 ` Dave Hansen
2020-06-11 16:59 ` Daniel Jordan
2020-06-11 17:05 ` Dave Hansen
2020-06-12 3:29 ` Daniel Jordan
2020-06-19 12:07 ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2020-06-22 19:17 ` Daniel Jordan
2020-06-26 12:47 ` Michal Hocko
2020-07-08 18:46 ` Daniel Jordan
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