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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: Chris Down <chris@chrisdown.name>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kernel-team@fb.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm, memcg: reclaim more aggressively before high allocator throttling
Date: Thu, 21 May 2020 15:21:20 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200521132120.GR6462@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200521125759.GD990580@chrisdown.name>

On Thu 21-05-20 13:57:59, Chris Down wrote:
> Michal Hocko writes:
> > > A cgroup is a unit and breaking it down into "reclaim fairness" for
> > > individual tasks like this seems suspect to me. For example, if one task in
> > > a cgroup is leaking unreclaimable memory like crazy, everyone in that cgroup
> > > is going to be penalised by allocator throttling as a result, even if they
> > > aren't "responsible" for that reclaim.
> > 
> > You are right, but that doesn't mean that it is desirable that some
> > tasks would be throttled unexpectedly too long because of the other's activity.
> 
> Are you really talking about throttling, or reclaim? If throttling, tasks
> are already throttled proportionally to how much this allocation is
> contributing to the overage in calculate_high_delay.

Reclaim is a part of the throttling mechanism. It is a productive side
of it actually.
 
> If you're talking about reclaim, trying to reason about whether the overage
> is the result of some other task in this cgroup or the task that's
> allocating right now is something that we already know doesn't work well
> (eg. global OOM).

I am not sure I follow you here.
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs


  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-05-21 13:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-20 14:37 Chris Down
2020-05-20 16:07 ` Michal Hocko
2020-05-20 16:51   ` Johannes Weiner
2020-05-20 17:04     ` Michal Hocko
2020-05-20 17:51       ` Johannes Weiner
2020-05-21  7:32         ` Michal Hocko
2020-05-21 13:51           ` Johannes Weiner
2020-05-21 14:22             ` Johannes Weiner
2020-05-21 14:35             ` Michal Hocko
2020-05-21 15:02               ` Chris Down
2020-05-21 16:38               ` Johannes Weiner
2020-05-21 17:37                 ` Michal Hocko
2020-05-21 18:45                   ` Johannes Weiner
2020-05-28 16:31                     ` Michal Hocko
2020-05-28 16:48                       ` Chris Down
2020-05-29  7:31                         ` Michal Hocko
2020-05-29 10:08                           ` Chris Down
2020-05-29 10:14                             ` Michal Hocko
2020-05-28 20:11                       ` Johannes Weiner
2020-05-20 20:26   ` Chris Down
2020-05-21  7:19     ` Michal Hocko
2020-05-21 11:27       ` Chris Down
2020-05-21 12:04         ` Michal Hocko
2020-05-21 12:23           ` Chris Down
2020-05-21 12:24             ` Chris Down
2020-05-21 12:37             ` Michal Hocko
2020-05-21 12:57               ` Chris Down
2020-05-21 13:05                 ` Chris Down
2020-05-21 13:28                   ` Michal Hocko
2020-05-21 13:21                 ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2020-05-21 13:41                   ` Chris Down
2020-05-21 13:58                     ` Michal Hocko
2020-05-21 14:22                       ` Chris Down
2020-05-21 12:28         ` Michal Hocko
2020-05-28 18:02 ` Shakeel Butt
2020-05-28 19:48   ` Chris Down
2020-05-28 20:29     ` Johannes Weiner
2020-05-28 21:02       ` Shakeel Butt
2020-05-28 21:14       ` Chris Down
2020-05-29  7:25       ` Michal Hocko

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