From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>, Kernel Team <kernel-team@fb.com>,
Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Chris Down <chris@chrisdown.name>,
Cgroups <cgroups@vger.kernel.org>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH mm v3 3/3] mm: automatically penalize tasks with high swap use
Date: Mon, 18 May 2020 12:42:10 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200518124210.37335d0b@kicinski-fedora-pc1c0hjn.dhcp.thefacebook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALvZod5Dcee8CaNfkhQQbvC1OuOTO7qE9bJw9NAa8nd2Cru6hA@mail.gmail.com>
On Sun, 17 May 2020 06:44:52 -0700 Shakeel Butt wrote:
> > Use one counter for number of pages allocated under pressure
> > to save struct task space and avoid two separate hierarchy
> > walks on the hot path.
>
> The above para seems out of place. It took some time to realize you
> are talking about current->memcg_nr_pages_over_high. IMO instead of
> this para, a comment in code would be much better.
Where would you like to see the comment? In struct task or where
counter is bumped?
> > Take the new high limit into account when determining if swap
> > is "full". Borrowing the explanation from Johannes:
> >
> > The idea behind "swap full" is that as long as the workload has plenty
> > of swap space available and it's not changing its memory contents, it
> > makes sense to generously hold on to copies of data in the swap
> > device, even after the swapin. A later reclaim cycle can drop the page
> > without any IO. Trading disk space for IO.
> >
> > But the only two ways to reclaim a swap slot is when they're faulted
> > in and the references go away, or by scanning the virtual address space
> > like swapoff does - which is very expensive (one could argue it's too
> > expensive even for swapoff, it's often more practical to just reboot).
> >
> > So at some point in the fill level, we have to start freeing up swap
> > slots on fault/swapin.
>
> swap.high allows the user to force the kernel to start freeing swap
> slots before half-full heuristic, right?
I'd say that the definition of full is extended to include swap.high.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-05-18 19:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-05-15 20:20 [PATCH mm v3 0/3] memcg: Slow down swap allocation as the available space gets depleted Jakub Kicinski
2020-05-15 20:20 ` [PATCH mm v3 1/3] mm: prepare for swap over-high accounting and penalty calculation Jakub Kicinski
2020-05-15 20:20 ` [PATCH mm v3 2/3] mm: move penalty delay clamping out of calculate_high_delay() Jakub Kicinski
2020-05-15 20:20 ` [PATCH mm v3 3/3] mm: automatically penalize tasks with high swap use Jakub Kicinski
2020-05-17 13:44 ` Shakeel Butt
2020-05-18 19:42 ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]
2020-05-18 19:58 ` Shakeel Butt
2020-05-19 0:42 ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-05-19 1:10 ` Shakeel Butt
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