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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>
Cc: Alex Shi <alex.shi@linux.alibaba.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>, Cgroups <cgroups@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] memcg: folding CONFIG_MEMCG_SWAP as default
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2020 18:54:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200417165442.GT26707@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALvZod7Xa4Xs=7zC8OZ7GOfvfDBv+yNbGCzBxeoMgAeRGRtw0A@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri 17-04-20 09:41:04, Shakeel Butt wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 9:03 AM Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri 17-04-20 22:43:43, Alex Shi wrote:
> > > This patch fold MEMCG_SWAP feature into kernel as default function. That
> > > required a short size memcg id for each of page. As Johannes mentioned
> > >
> > > "the overhead of tracking is tiny - 512k per G of swap (0.04%).'
> > >
> > > So all swapout page could be tracked for its memcg id.
> >
> > I am perfectly OK with dropping the CONFIG_MEMCG_SWAP. The code that is
> > guarded by it is negligible and the resulting code is much easier to
> > read so no objection on that front. I just do not really see any real
> > reason to flip the default for cgroup v1. Why do we want/need that?
> >
> 
> Yes, the changelog is lacking the motivation of this change. This is
> proposed by Johannes and I was actually expecting the patch from him.
> The motivation is to make the things simpler for per-memcg LRU locking
> and workingset for anon memory (Johannes has described these really
> well, lemme find the email). If we keep the differentiation between
> cgroup v1 and v2, then there is actually no point of this cleanup as
> per-memcg LRU locking and anon workingset still has to handle the
> !do_swap_account case.

All those details really have to go into the changelog. I have to say
that I still do not understand why the actual accounting swap or not
makes any difference for per per-memcg LRU. Especially when your patch
keeps the kernel command line parameter still in place.

Anyway, it would be much more simpler to have a patch that drops the
CONFIG_MEMCG_SWAP and a separate one which switches the default
beahvior. I am not saying I am ok with the later but if the
justification is convincing then I might change my mind.
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs


  reply	other threads:[~2020-04-17 16:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-17 14:43 Alex Shi
2020-04-17 14:43 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm/swap: clean up parameter pass in swapin funcs Alex Shi
2020-04-17 15:53 ` [PATCH 1/2] memcg: folding CONFIG_MEMCG_SWAP as default Michal Hocko
2020-04-17 16:41   ` Shakeel Butt
2020-04-17 16:54     ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2020-04-17 17:35       ` Shakeel Butt
2020-04-18 13:44       ` Alex Shi
2020-04-18 16:17         ` Shakeel Butt
2020-04-17 16:22 ` Shakeel Butt

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