From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=3.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C420CC10F28 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2020 17:04:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kanga.kvack.org (kanga.kvack.org [205.233.56.17]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CB81208C3 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2020 17:04:28 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org 9CB81208C3 Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=zeniv.linux.org.uk Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=owner-linux-mm@kvack.org Received: by kanga.kvack.org (Postfix) id 31BAC6B0003; Fri, 6 Mar 2020 12:04:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by kanga.kvack.org (Postfix, from userid 40) id 2CC056B0006; Fri, 6 Mar 2020 12:04:28 -0500 (EST) X-Delivered-To: int-list-linux-mm@kvack.org Received: by kanga.kvack.org (Postfix, from userid 63042) id 1E28D6B0007; Fri, 6 Mar 2020 12:04:28 -0500 (EST) X-Delivered-To: linux-mm@kvack.org Received: from forelay.hostedemail.com (smtprelay0034.hostedemail.com [216.40.44.34]) by kanga.kvack.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A1DC6B0003 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2020 12:04:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtpin24.hostedemail.com (10.5.19.251.rfc1918.com [10.5.19.251]) by forelay04.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4A2D1F1B for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2020 17:04:27 +0000 (UTC) X-FDA: 76565560974.24.coat18_26e94f9af6d0b X-HE-Tag: coat18_26e94f9af6d0b X-Filterd-Recvd-Size: 2327 Received: from ZenIV.linux.org.uk (zeniv.linux.org.uk [195.92.253.2]) by imf13.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2020 17:04:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from viro by ZenIV.linux.org.uk with local (Exim 4.92.3 #3 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1jAGOX-006OO2-9c; Fri, 06 Mar 2020 17:04:17 +0000 Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2020 17:04:17 +0000 From: Al Viro To: Matthew Wilcox Cc: Josef Bacik , lsf-pc , Linux FS Devel , linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, Btrfs BTRFS , bpf@vger.kernel.org, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [LSFMMBPF TOPIC] Killing LSFMMBPF Message-ID: <20200306170417.GX23230@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> References: <20200306160548.GB25710@bombadil.infradead.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20200306160548.GB25710@bombadil.infradead.org> X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000001, version=1.2.4 Sender: owner-linux-mm@kvack.org Precedence: bulk X-Loop: owner-majordomo@kvack.org List-ID: On Fri, Mar 06, 2020 at 08:05:48AM -0800, Matthew Wilcox wrote: > > 4) Presentations. 90% of the conference is 1-2 people standing at the front > > of the room, talking to a room of 20-100 people, with only a few people in > > the audience who cares. We do our best to curate the presentations so we're > > not wasting peoples time, but in the end I don't care what David Howells is > > doing with mount, I trust him to do the right thing and he really just needs > > to trap Viro in a room to work it out, he doesn't need all of us. > > ... and allow the other 3-5 people who're interested or affected the > opportunity to sit in. Like a mailing list, but higher bandwidth. Latency can be more unpleasant, actually - you try to discuss something between 3 people, when one is in .uk, another - in .us (east coast) and the third one - in ,au (also east coast). Timezone deltas - 5 hours and 8 hours, in opposite directions... Incidentally, that was about mount, with me and David being two of participants; I somewhat hoped to get that sorted out at LSF, but Ian won't be there anyway. OTOH, that's just an 8 hours delta...