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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: Cong Wang <xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: avoid blocking lock_page() in kcompactd
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2020 08:48:47 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200213074847.GB31689@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200128113953.GA24244@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On Tue 28-01-20 12:39:55, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Tue 28-01-20 02:48:57, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 10:13:52AM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > On Tue 28-01-20 00:30:44, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 09:17:12AM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > > > On Mon 27-01-20 11:06:53, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > > > > > On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 04:00:24PM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > > > > > On Sun 26-01-20 15:39:35, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Sun, Jan 26, 2020 at 11:53:55AM -0800, Cong Wang wrote:
> > > > > > > > > I suspect the process gets stuck in the retry loop in try_charge(), as
> > > > > > > > > the _shortest_ stacktrace of the perf samples indicated:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > cycles:ppp:
> > > > > > > > >         ffffffffa72963db mem_cgroup_iter
> > > > > > > > >         ffffffffa72980ca mem_cgroup_oom_unlock
> > > > > > > > >         ffffffffa7298c15 try_charge
> > > > > > > > >         ffffffffa729a886 mem_cgroup_try_charge
> > > > > > > > >         ffffffffa720ec03 __add_to_page_cache_locked
> > > > > > > > >         ffffffffa720ee3a add_to_page_cache_lru
> > > > > > > > >         ffffffffa7312ddb iomap_readpages_actor
> > > > > > > > >         ffffffffa73133f7 iomap_apply
> > > > > > > > >         ffffffffa73135da iomap_readpages
> > > > > > > > >         ffffffffa722062e read_pages
> > > > > > > > >         ffffffffa7220b3f __do_page_cache_readahead
> > > > > > > > >         ffffffffa7210554 filemap_fault
> > > > > > > > >         ffffffffc039e41f __xfs_filemap_fault
> > > > > > > > >         ffffffffa724f5e7 __do_fault
> > > > > > > > >         ffffffffa724c5f2 __handle_mm_fault
> > > > > > > > >         ffffffffa724cbc6 handle_mm_fault
> > > > > > > > >         ffffffffa70a313e __do_page_fault
> > > > > > > > >         ffffffffa7a00dfe page_fault
> > > > > 
> > > > > I am not deeply familiar with the readahead code. But is there really a
> > > > > high oerder allocation (order > 1) that would trigger compaction in the
> > > > > phase when pages are locked?
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks to sl*b, yes:
> > > > 
> > > > radix_tree_node    80890 102536    584   28    4 : tunables    0    0    0 : slabdata   3662   3662      0
> > > > 
> > > > so it's allocating 4 pages for an allocation of a 576 byte node.
> > > 
> > > I am not really sure that we do sync migration for costly orders.
> > 
> > Doesn't the stack trace above indicate that we're doing migration as
> > the result of an allocation in add_to_page_cache_lru()?
> 
> Which stack trace do you refer to? Because the one above doesn't show
> much more beyond mem_cgroup_iter and likewise others in this email
> thread. I do not really remember any stack with lock_page on the trace.
> > 
> > > > > Btw. the compaction rejects to consider file backed pages when __GFP_FS
> > > > > is not present AFAIR.
> > > > 
> > > > Ah, that would save us.
> > > 
> > > So the NOFS comes from the mapping GFP mask, right? That is something I
> > > was hoping to get rid of eventually :/ Anyway it would be better to have
> > > an explicit NOFS with a comment explaining why we need that. If for
> > > nothing else then for documentation.
> > 
> > I'd also like to see the mapping GFP mask go away, but rather than seeing
> > an explicit GFP_NOFS here, I'd rather see the memalloc_nofs API used.
> 
> Completely agreed agree here. The proper place for the scope would be
> the place where pages are locked with an explanation that there are
> other allocations down the line which might invoke sync migration and
> that would be dangerous. Having that explicitly documented is clearly an
> improvement.

Can we pursue on this please? An explicit NOFS scope annotation with a
reference to compaction potentially locking up on pages in the readahead
would be a great start.
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs


  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-02-13  7:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-01-09 22:56 Cong Wang
2020-01-10  0:28 ` Yang Shi
2020-01-10  1:01   ` Cong Wang
2020-01-10  4:51     ` Cong Wang
2020-01-10  7:38 ` Michal Hocko
2020-01-20 22:48   ` Cong Wang
2020-01-21  9:00     ` Michal Hocko
2020-01-26 19:53       ` Cong Wang
2020-01-26 23:39         ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-01-27 15:00           ` Michal Hocko
2020-01-27 19:06             ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-01-28  1:25               ` Yang Shi
2020-01-28  6:03                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-01-28  8:17               ` Michal Hocko
2020-01-28  8:30                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-01-28  9:13                   ` Michal Hocko
2020-01-28 10:48                     ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-01-28 11:39                       ` Michal Hocko
2020-01-28 19:44                         ` Cong Wang
2020-01-30 22:52                           ` Cong Wang
2020-02-13  7:48                         ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2020-02-13 16:46                           ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-02-13 17:08                             ` Michal Hocko
2020-02-14  4:27                               ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-02-14  6:55                                 ` Michal Hocko
2020-01-27 14:49         ` Michal Hocko
2020-01-28  0:46           ` Cong Wang
2020-01-28  8:22             ` Michal Hocko
2020-01-10  9:22 ` Mel Gorman
2020-01-20 22:41   ` Cong Wang
2020-01-21 19:21     ` Yang Shi
2020-01-21  8:26   ` Hillf Danton
2020-01-21  9:06     ` Michal Hocko

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