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From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: SeongJae Park <sj38.park@gmail.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>, Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: Re: Splitting the mmap_sem
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2020 13:20:24 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200206212024.GB8731@bombadil.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200206205529.GZ14914@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Thu, Feb 06, 2020 at 09:55:29PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 06, 2020 at 12:15:36PM -0800, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > then, at the beginning of a page fault call srcu_read_lock(&vma_srcu);
> > walk the tree as we do now, allocate memory for PTEs, sleep waiting for
> > pages to arrive back from disc, etc, etc, then at the end of the fault,
> > call srcu_read_unlock(&vma_srcu). 
> 
> So far so good,...
> 
> > munmap() would consist of removing the
> > VMA from the tree, then calling synchronize_srcu() to wait for all faults
> > to finish, then putting the backing file, etc, etc and freeing the VMA.
> 
> call_srcu(), and the (s)rcu callback will then fput() and such things
> more.
> 
> synchronize_srcu() (like synchronize_rcu()) is stupid slow and would
> make munmap()/exit()/etc.. unusable.

I'll need to think about that a bit.  I was convinced we needed to wait
for the current pagefaults to finish before we could return from munmap().
I need to convince myself that it's OK to return to userspace while the
page faults for that range are still proceeding on other CPUs.

> > This seems pretty reasonable, and investigation could actually proceed
> > before the Maple tree work lands.  Today, that would be:
> > 
> > srcu_read_lock(&vmas_srcu);
> > down_read(&mm->mmap_sem);
> > find_vma(mm, address);
> > up_read(&mm->mmap_sem);
> > ... rest of fault handler path ...
> > srcu_read_unlock(&vmas_srcu);
> > 
> > Kind of a pain because we still call find_vma() in the per-arch page
> > fault handler, but for prototyping, we'd only have to do one or two
> > architectures.
> 
> If you look at the earlier speculative page-fault patches by Laurent,
> which were based on my still earlier patches, you'll find most of this
> there.
> 
> The tricky bit was validating everything on the second page-table walk,
> so see if nothing had fundamentally changed, specifically the VMA,
> before installing the PTE. If you do this without mmap_sem, you need to
> hold ptlock to pin stuff while validating everything you did earlier.

The patches Laurent posted used regular RCU and a per-VMA refcount, not
SRCU.  If you use SRCU, why would you need a second page table walk?


  reply	other threads:[~2020-02-06 21:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-12-03 22:21 Matthew Wilcox
2019-12-05 17:21 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-12-06  5:13   ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-12-06 17:30     ` Jerome Glisse
2019-12-09  3:33       ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-12-09 14:17         ` Jerome Glisse
2019-12-10 15:26   ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-12-10 16:07     ` Jerome Glisse
2019-12-10 18:09       ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-12-12 14:24 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2019-12-12 15:40   ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-12-12 15:46     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2019-12-13 14:33       ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-12-13 18:06         ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2019-12-13 18:21           ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-01-06 22:09     ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-01-07 12:34       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2020-01-07 13:54         ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-01-07 14:27           ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2020-01-09 13:56             ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-01-09 17:03               ` Michal Hocko
2020-01-09 17:07                 ` Michal Hocko
2020-01-09 17:32                   ` SeongJae Park
2020-01-09 20:13                     ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-02-06 13:59                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-02-06 20:15                         ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-02-06 20:55                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-02-06 21:20                             ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2020-02-07  8:52                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-02-10 22:00                                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-02-19 17:14                                 ` Laurent Dufour

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