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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: SeongJae Park <sj38.park@gmail.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>, Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: Re: Splitting the mmap_sem
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2020 14:59:20 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200206135920.GS14914@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200109201320.GO6788@bombadil.infradead.org>

On Thu, Jan 09, 2020 at 12:13:20PM -0800, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> One of the use cases that we're concerned about involves a high
> percentage of page faults on a single large (terabytes) VMA (and a
> highly multithreaded process).  Moving the contention from a rwsem
> in the mm_struct to a refcount in the VMA will not help performance
> substantially for this user.

This is why I never believed in the VMA-refcount approach, and why my
patches used SRCU.

> The proposal consists of three phases.  In phase 1, we convert the
> rbtree to the maple tree, and leave the locking alone.  In phase 2,
> we change the locking to a per-VMA refcount, looked up under RCU.
> 
> This problem arises during phase 3 where we attempt to handle page
> faults entirely under the RCU read lock.  If we encounter problems,
> we can fall back to acquiring the VMA refcount, but we need the
> page allocation to fail rather than sleep (or magically drop the
> RCU lock and return an indication that it has done so, but that
> doesn't seem to be an approach that would find any favour).

So why not use SRCU? You can do full blocking faults under SRCU and
don't need no 'stinkin' refcounts ;-)


  reply	other threads:[~2020-02-06 13:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-12-03 22:21 Matthew Wilcox
2019-12-05 17:21 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-12-06  5:13   ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-12-06 17:30     ` Jerome Glisse
2019-12-09  3:33       ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-12-09 14:17         ` Jerome Glisse
2019-12-10 15:26   ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-12-10 16:07     ` Jerome Glisse
2019-12-10 18:09       ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-12-12 14:24 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2019-12-12 15:40   ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-12-12 15:46     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2019-12-13 14:33       ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-12-13 18:06         ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2019-12-13 18:21           ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-01-06 22:09     ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-01-07 12:34       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2020-01-07 13:54         ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-01-07 14:27           ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2020-01-09 13:56             ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-01-09 17:03               ` Michal Hocko
2020-01-09 17:07                 ` Michal Hocko
2020-01-09 17:32                   ` SeongJae Park
2020-01-09 20:13                     ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-02-06 13:59                       ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2020-02-06 20:15                         ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-02-06 20:55                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-02-06 21:20                             ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-02-07  8:52                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-02-10 22:00                                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-02-19 17:14                                 ` Laurent Dufour

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