From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@gmail.com>
Cc: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov.dev@gmail.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm, memcg: clear page protection when memcg oom group happens
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2019 08:31:29 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191126073129.GA20912@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALOAHbDKxeHroZ2xZa2O9xRLqzEs9XsdrqB5k8CJToDXqTOAHw@mail.gmail.com>
On Tue 26-11-19 11:52:19, Yafang Shao wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 10:42 PM Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 03:21:50PM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > On Mon 25-11-19 22:11:15, Yafang Shao wrote:
> > > > When there're no processes, we don't need to protect the pages. You
> > > > can consider it as 'fault tolerance' .
> > >
> > > I have already tried to explain why this is a bold statement that
> > > doesn't really hold universally and that the kernel doesn't really have
> > > enough information to make an educated guess.
> >
> > I agree, this is not obviously true. And the kernel shouldn't try to
> > guess whether the explicit userspace configuration is still desirable
> > to userspace or not. Should we also delete the cgroup when it becomes
> > empty for example?
> >
> > It's better to implement these kinds of policy decisions from
> > userspace.
> >
> > There is a cgroup.events file that can be polled, and its "populated"
> > field shows conveniently whether there are tasks in a subtree or
> > not. You can use that to clear protection settings.
>
> Why isn't force_empty supported in cgroup2 ?
There wasn't any sound usecase AFAIR.
> In this case we can free the protected file pages immdiately with force_empty.
You can do the same thing by setting the hard limit to 0.
--
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-11-26 7:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-11-25 10:14 Yafang Shao
2019-11-25 11:08 ` Michal Hocko
2019-11-25 11:37 ` Yafang Shao
2019-11-25 11:54 ` Michal Hocko
2019-11-25 12:17 ` Yafang Shao
2019-11-25 12:31 ` Michal Hocko
2019-11-25 12:37 ` Yafang Shao
2019-11-25 12:45 ` Michal Hocko
2019-11-25 14:11 ` Yafang Shao
2019-11-25 14:21 ` Michal Hocko
2019-11-25 14:42 ` Johannes Weiner
2019-11-25 14:45 ` Yafang Shao
2019-11-26 3:52 ` Yafang Shao
2019-11-26 7:31 ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2019-11-26 9:35 ` Yafang Shao
2019-11-26 9:50 ` Michal Hocko
2019-11-26 10:02 ` Yafang Shao
2019-11-26 10:22 ` Michal Hocko
2019-11-26 10:56 ` Yafang Shao
2019-11-25 14:44 ` Yafang Shao
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