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From: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
To: Roman Gushchin <guro@fb.com>
Cc: "linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Kernel Team <Kernel-team@fb.com>,
	Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>,
	Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov.dev@gmail.com>,
	Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 09/16] mm: memcg/slab: charge individual slab objects instead of pages
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2019 14:50:32 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191031185032.GA2337@cmpxchg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191031150657.GA31765@tower.DHCP.thefacebook.com>

On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 03:07:02PM +0000, Roman Gushchin wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 10:41:51AM -0400, Johannes Weiner wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 01:52:44AM +0000, Roman Gushchin wrote:
> > > On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 03:41:18PM -0400, Johannes Weiner wrote:
> > > > @@ -3117,15 +3095,24 @@ void __memcg_kmem_uncharge(struct page *page, int order)
> > > >  	css_put_many(&memcg->css, nr_pages);
> > > >  }
> > > >  
> > > > -int __memcg_kmem_charge_subpage(struct mem_cgroup *memcg, size_t size,
> > > > -				gfp_t gfp)
> > > > +int obj_cgroup_charge(struct obj_cgroup *objcg, size_t size, gfp_t gfp)
> > > >  {
> > > > -	return try_charge(memcg, gfp, size, true);
> > > > +	int ret;
> > > > +
> > > > +	if (consume_obj_stock(objcg, nr_bytes))
> > > > +		return 0;
> > > > +
> > > > +	ret = try_charge(objcg->memcg, gfp, 1);
> > > > +	if (ret)
> > > > +		return ret;
> > 
> > > The second problem is also here. If a task belonging to a different memcg
> > > is scheduled on this cpu, most likely we will need to refill both stocks,
> > > even if we need only a small temporarily allocation.
> > 
> > Yes, that's a good thing. The reason we have the per-cpu caches in the
> > first place is because most likely the same cgroup will perform
> > several allocations. Both the slab allocator and the page allocator
> > have per-cpu caches for the same reason. I don't really understand
> > what the argument is.
> 
> I mean it seems strange (and most likely will show up in perf numbers)
> to move a page from one stock to another. Is there a reason why do you want
> to ask try_charge() and stock only a single page?
>
> Can we do the following instead?
> 
> 1) add a boolean argument to try_charge() to bypass the consume_stock() call
> at the beginning and just go slow path immediately
> 2) use try_charge() with this argument set to true to fill the objc/subpage
> stock with MEMCG_CHARGE_BATCH pages

No, think this through.

If you have disjunct caches for the page_counter, it means the cache
work cannot be shared. A slab allocation has to hit the page_counter,
and a subsequent page allocation has to hit it again; likewise, a slab
allocation cannot benefit from the caching of prior page allocations.

You're trading cheap, unlocked, cpu-local subtractions against costly
atomic RMW ops on shared cachelines. You also double the amount of
cached per-cpu memory and introduce a layering violation.

Hotpath (bytes cached)

	stacked:				disjunct:
	consume_subpage_stock()			try_charge()
						  consume_subpage_stock()

Warmpath (pages cached)

	stacked:				disjunct:
	consume_subpage_stock()			try_charge()
	  try_charge()				  consume_subpage_stock()
	    consume_stock()			  page_counter_charge()
	refill_subpage_stock()			  refill_subpage_stock()

Coldpath (nothing cached)

	stacked:				disjunct
	consume_subpage_stock()			try_charge()
	  try_charge()				  consume_subpage_stock()
	    consume_stock()			  page_counter_charge()
	    page_counter_charge()		  refill_subpage_stock()
	    refill_stock()
	refill_subpage_stock()


  reply	other threads:[~2019-10-31 18:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-18  0:28 [PATCH 00/16] The new slab memory controller Roman Gushchin
2019-10-18  0:28 ` [PATCH 01/16] mm: memcg: introduce mem_cgroup_ptr Roman Gushchin
2019-10-18  0:28 ` [PATCH 02/16] mm: vmstat: use s32 for vm_node_stat_diff in struct per_cpu_nodestat Roman Gushchin
2019-10-20 22:44   ` Christopher Lameter
2019-10-21  1:15     ` Roman Gushchin
2019-10-21 18:09       ` Christopher Lameter
2019-10-20 22:51   ` Christopher Lameter
2019-10-21  1:21     ` Roman Gushchin
2019-10-18  0:28 ` [PATCH 03/16] mm: vmstat: convert slab vmstat counter to bytes Roman Gushchin
2019-10-18  0:28 ` [PATCH 04/16] mm: memcg/slab: allocate space for memcg ownership data for non-root slabs Roman Gushchin
2019-10-18  0:28 ` [PATCH 05/16] mm: slub: implement SLUB version of obj_to_index() Roman Gushchin
2019-10-18  0:28 ` [PATCH 06/16] mm: memcg/slab: save memcg ownership data for non-root slab objects Roman Gushchin
2019-10-18  0:28 ` [PATCH 07/16] mm: memcg: move memcg_kmem_bypass() to memcontrol.h Roman Gushchin
2019-10-18  0:28 ` [PATCH 08/16] mm: memcg: introduce __mod_lruvec_memcg_state() Roman Gushchin
2019-10-18  0:28 ` [PATCH 09/16] mm: memcg/slab: charge individual slab objects instead of pages Roman Gushchin
2019-10-25 19:41   ` Johannes Weiner
2019-10-25 20:00     ` Roman Gushchin
2019-10-25 20:52       ` Johannes Weiner
2019-10-31  1:52     ` Roman Gushchin
2019-10-31 14:23       ` Johannes Weiner
2019-10-31 14:41       ` Johannes Weiner
2019-10-31 15:07         ` Roman Gushchin
2019-10-31 18:50           ` Johannes Weiner [this message]
2019-10-18  0:28 ` [PATCH 10/16] mm: memcg: move get_mem_cgroup_from_current() to memcontrol.h Roman Gushchin
2019-10-18  0:28 ` [PATCH 11/16] mm: memcg/slab: replace memcg_from_slab_page() with memcg_from_slab_obj() Roman Gushchin
2019-10-18  0:28 ` [PATCH 12/16] tools/cgroup: add slabinfo.py tool Roman Gushchin
2019-10-18  0:28 ` [PATCH 13/16] mm: memcg/slab: deprecate memory.kmem.slabinfo Roman Gushchin
2019-10-18  0:28 ` [PATCH 14/16] mm: memcg/slab: use one set of kmem_caches for all memory cgroups Roman Gushchin
2019-10-18  0:28 ` [PATCH 15/16] tools/cgroup: make slabinfo.py compatible with new slab controller Roman Gushchin
2019-10-18  0:28 ` [PATCH 16/16] mm: slab: remove redundant check in memcg_accumulate_slabinfo() Roman Gushchin
2019-10-18 17:03 ` [PATCH 00/16] The new slab memory controller Waiman Long
2019-10-18 17:12   ` Roman Gushchin
2019-10-22 13:22 ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-22 13:28   ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-22 15:48     ` Roman Gushchin
2019-10-22 13:31 ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-22 15:59   ` Roman Gushchin

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