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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@mellanox.com>
To: Jerome Glisse <jglisse@redhat.com>
Cc: "christian.koenig@amd.com" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	"Yang, Philip" <Philip.Yang@amd.com>,
	Ralph Campbell <rcampbell@nvidia.com>,
	"linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org" <linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org>,
	John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
	"Kuehling, Felix" <Felix.Kuehling@amd.com>,
	"amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org" <amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org"
	<dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	Ben Skeggs <bskeggs@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH hmm 00/15] Consolidate the mmu notifier interval_tree and locking
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2019 17:24:45 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191023172442.GX22766@mellanox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191023165223.GA4163@redhat.com>

On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 12:52:23PM -0400, Jerome Glisse wrote:
> > Going another step further.... what hinders us to put the lock into the mmu
> > range notifier itself and have _lock()/_unlock() helpers?
> > 
> > I mean having the lock in the driver only makes sense when the driver would
> > be using the same lock for multiple things, e.g. multiple MMU range
> > notifiers under the same lock. But I really don't see that use case here.
> 
> I actualy do, nouveau use one lock to protect the page table and that's the
> lock that matter. You can have multiple range for a single page table, idea
> being only a sub-set of the process address space is ever accessed by the
> GPU and those it is better to focus on this sub-set and track invalidation in
> a finer grain.

mlx5 is similar, but not currently coded quite right, there is one
lock that protects the command queue for submitting invalidations to
the HW and it doesn't make a lot of sense to have additional fine
grained locking beyond that.

So I suppose the intent here that most drivers would have a single
'page table lock' that protects the HW's page table update, and this
lock is the one that should be held while upating and checking the
sequence number.

dma_fence based drivers are possibly a little different, I think they
can just use a spinlock, their pattern should probably be something
like

fault:
 hmm_range_fault()

 spin_lock()
 if (mmu_range_read_retry()))
     goto again
 dma_fence_init(mrn->fence)
 spin_unlock()

invalidate:
 spin_lock()
 is_inited = 'dma fence init has been called'
 spin_unlock()
 if (is_inited)
    dma_fence_wait(fence)


I'm not sure, never used dma_fence before. The key thing is that the
dma_fence_wait() cannot block until after the mmu_range_read_retry() &
unlock completes. Otherwise it can deadlock with hmm_range_fault().

It would be nice to figure this out and add it to the hmm.rst as we do
have two drivers using the dma_fence scheme.

Also, the use of a spinlock here probably says we should keep the lock
external.

But, it sounds like the mmu_range_notifier_update_seq() is a good
idea, so let me add that in v2.

Jason


  reply	other threads:[~2019-10-23 17:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-15 18:12 Jason Gunthorpe
2019-10-15 18:12 ` [PATCH hmm 01/15] mm/mmu_notifier: define the header pre-processor parts even if disabled Jason Gunthorpe
2019-10-21 18:32   ` Jerome Glisse
2019-10-15 18:12 ` [PATCH hmm 02/15] mm/mmu_notifier: add an interval tree notifier Jason Gunthorpe
2019-10-21 18:30   ` Jerome Glisse
2019-10-21 18:54     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-10-21 19:11       ` Jerome Glisse
2019-10-21 19:24         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-10-21 19:47           ` Jerome Glisse
2019-10-27 23:15   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-10-15 18:12 ` [PATCH hmm 03/15] mm/hmm: allow hmm_range to be used with a mmu_range_notifier or hmm_mirror Jason Gunthorpe
2019-10-21 18:33   ` Jerome Glisse
2019-10-15 18:12 ` [PATCH hmm 04/15] mm/hmm: define the pre-processor related parts of hmm.h even if disabled Jason Gunthorpe
2019-10-21 18:31   ` Jerome Glisse
2019-10-15 18:12 ` [PATCH hmm 05/15] RDMA/odp: Use mmu_range_notifier_insert() Jason Gunthorpe
2019-11-04 20:25   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-10-15 18:12 ` [PATCH hmm 06/15] RDMA/hfi1: Use mmu_range_notifier_inset for user_exp_rcv Jason Gunthorpe
2019-10-29 12:15   ` Dennis Dalessandro
2019-10-15 18:12 ` [PATCH hmm 07/15] drm/radeon: use mmu_range_notifier_insert Jason Gunthorpe
2019-10-15 18:12 ` [PATCH hmm 08/15] xen/gntdev: Use select for DMA_SHARED_BUFFER Jason Gunthorpe
2019-10-16  5:11   ` Jürgen Groß
2019-10-16  6:35     ` Oleksandr Andrushchenko
2019-10-21 19:12       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-10-28  6:25         ` [Xen-devel] " Oleksandr Andrushchenko
2019-10-15 18:12 ` [PATCH hmm 09/15] xen/gntdev: use mmu_range_notifier_insert Jason Gunthorpe
2019-10-15 18:12 ` [PATCH hmm 10/15] nouveau: use mmu_notifier directly for invalidate_range_start Jason Gunthorpe
2019-10-15 18:12 ` [PATCH hmm 11/15] nouveau: use mmu_range_notifier instead of hmm_mirror Jason Gunthorpe
2019-10-15 18:12 ` [PATCH hmm 13/15] drm/amdgpu: Use mmu_range_insert " Jason Gunthorpe
2019-10-15 18:12 ` [PATCH hmm 14/15] drm/amdgpu: Use mmu_range_notifier " Jason Gunthorpe
2019-10-15 18:12 ` [PATCH hmm 15/15] mm/hmm: remove hmm_mirror and related Jason Gunthorpe
2019-10-21 18:38   ` Jerome Glisse
2019-10-21 18:57     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-10-21 19:19       ` Jerome Glisse
2019-10-16  8:58 ` [PATCH hmm 00/15] Consolidate the mmu notifier interval_tree and locking Christian König
2019-10-16 16:04   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-10-17  8:54     ` Christian König
2019-10-17 16:26       ` Yang, Philip
2019-10-17 16:47         ` Koenig, Christian
2019-10-18 20:36           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-10-20 14:21             ` Koenig, Christian
2019-10-21 13:57               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-10-21 14:28                 ` Koenig, Christian
2019-10-21 15:12                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-10-22  7:57                     ` Daniel Vetter
2019-10-22 15:01                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-10-23  9:08                         ` Daniel Vetter
2019-10-23  9:32                           ` Christian König
2019-10-23 16:52                             ` Jerome Glisse
2019-10-23 17:24                               ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2019-10-24  2:16                                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-10-21 15:55 ` Dennis Dalessandro
2019-10-21 16:58   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-10-22 11:56     ` Dennis Dalessandro
2019-10-22 14:37       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-10-21 18:40 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-10-21 19:06   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-10-23 20:26     ` Jerome Glisse
2019-10-17 16:44 Koenig, Christian

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