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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
Cc: Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Roman Gushchin <guro@fb.com>,
	Konstantin Khlebnikov <khlebnikov@yandex-team.ru>,
	Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>, Song Liu <songliubraving@fb.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Rafael Aquini <aquini@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/vmstat: Reduce zone lock hold time when reading /proc/pagetypeinfo
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2019 08:15:11 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191023061511.GA754@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191022145902.d9c4a719c0b32175e06e4eee@linux-foundation.org>

On Tue 22-10-19 14:59:02, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Oct 2019 12:21:56 -0400 Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com> wrote:
[...]
> > -	for (mtype = 0; mtype < MIGRATE_TYPES; mtype++) {
> > -		seq_printf(m, "Node %4d, zone %8s, type %12s ",
> > -					pgdat->node_id,
> > -					zone->name,
> > -					migratetype_names[mtype]);
> > -		for (order = 0; order < MAX_ORDER; ++order) {
> > +	lockdep_assert_held(&zone->lock);
> > +	lockdep_assert_irqs_disabled();
> > +
> > +	/*
> > +	 * MIGRATE_MOVABLE is usually the largest one in large memory
> > +	 * systems. We skip iterating that list. Instead, we compute it by
> > +	 * subtracting the total of the rests from free_area->nr_free.
> > +	 */
> > +	for (order = 0; order < MAX_ORDER; ++order) {
> > +		unsigned long nr_total = 0;
> > +		struct free_area *area = &(zone->free_area[order]);
> > +
> > +		for (mtype = 0; mtype < MIGRATE_TYPES; mtype++) {
> >  			unsigned long freecount = 0;
> > -			struct free_area *area;
> >  			struct list_head *curr;
> >  
> > -			area = &(zone->free_area[order]);
> > -
> > +			if (mtype == MIGRATE_MOVABLE)
> > +				continue;
> >  			list_for_each(curr, &area->free_list[mtype])
> >  				freecount++;
> > -			seq_printf(m, "%6lu ", freecount);
> > +			nfree[order][mtype] = freecount;
> > +			nr_total += freecount;
> >  		}
> > +		nfree[order][MIGRATE_MOVABLE] = area->nr_free - nr_total;
> > +
> > +		/*
> > +		 * If we have already iterated more than 64k of list
> > +		 * entries, we might have hold the zone lock for too long.
> > +		 * Temporarily release the lock and reschedule before
> > +		 * continuing so that other lock waiters have a chance
> > +		 * to run.
> > +		 */
> > +		if (nr_total > (1 << 16)) {
> > +			spin_unlock_irq(&zone->lock);
> > +			cond_resched();
> > +			spin_lock_irq(&zone->lock);
> > +		}
> > +	}
> > +
> > +	for (mtype = 0; mtype < MIGRATE_TYPES; mtype++) {
> > +		seq_printf(m, "Node %4d, zone %8s, type %12s ",
> > +					pgdat->node_id,
> > +					zone->name,
> > +					migratetype_names[mtype]);
> > +		for (order = 0; order < MAX_ORDER; ++order)
> > +			seq_printf(m, "%6lu ", nfree[order][mtype]);
> >  		seq_putc(m, '\n');
> 
> This is not exactly a thing of beauty :( Presumably there might still
> be situations where the irq-off times remain excessive.

Yes. It is the list_for_each over the free_list that needs the lock and
that is the actual problem here. This can be really large with a _lot_
of memory. And this is why I objected to the patch. Because it doesn't
really address this problem. I would like to hear from Mel and Vlastimil
how would they feel about making free_list fully migrate type aware
(including nr_free).

> Why are we actually holding zone->lock so much?  Can we get away with
> holding it across the list_for_each() loop and nothing else?  If so,
> this still isn't a bulletproof fix.  Maybe just terminate the list
> walk if freecount reaches 1024.  Would anyone really care?
> 
> Sigh.  I wonder if anyone really uses this thing for anything
> important.  Can we just remove it all?

Vlastimil would know much better but I have seen this being used for
fragmentation related debugging. That should imply that 0400 should be
sufficient and a quick and easily backportable fix for the most pressing
immediate problem.
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs


  reply	other threads:[~2019-10-23  6:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-22 16:21 Waiman Long
2019-10-22 16:57 ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-22 18:00   ` Waiman Long
2019-10-22 18:40     ` Waiman Long
2019-10-23  0:52       ` David Rientjes
2019-10-23  8:31   ` Mel Gorman
2019-10-23  9:04     ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-23  9:56       ` Mel Gorman
2019-10-23 10:27         ` [RFC PATCH 0/2] " Michal Hocko
2019-10-23 10:27           ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] mm, vmstat: hide /proc/pagetypeinfo from normal users Michal Hocko
2019-10-23 13:13             ` Mel Gorman
2019-10-23 13:27             ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-10-23 14:52             ` Waiman Long
2019-10-23 15:10             ` Rafael Aquini
2019-10-23 16:15             ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-10-24 19:01             ` David Rientjes
2019-10-23 10:27           ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] mm, vmstat: reduce zone->lock holding time by /proc/pagetypeinfo Michal Hocko
2019-10-23 13:15             ` Mel Gorman
2019-10-23 13:32             ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-10-23 13:37               ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-23 13:48                 ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-10-23 14:31                   ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-23 16:20                     ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-10-23 13:46               ` Rafael Aquini
2019-10-23 14:56             ` Waiman Long
2019-10-23 15:21               ` Waiman Long
2019-10-23 16:10               ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-23 16:17                 ` Waiman Long
2019-10-23 16:21                   ` Waiman Long
2019-10-23 16:15             ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-10-23 16:41             ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-23 16:47               ` Waiman Long
2019-10-23 17:34             ` [PATCH 1/2] mm, vmstat: Release zone lock more frequently when reading /proc/pagetypeinfo Waiman Long
2019-10-23 18:01               ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-23 18:14                 ` Waiman Long
2019-10-23 20:02                   ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-23 17:34             ` [PATCH 2/2] mm, vmstat: List total free blocks for each order in /proc/pagetypeinfo Waiman Long
2019-10-23 18:02               ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-23 18:07                 ` Waiman Long
2019-10-24  8:20           ` [RFC PATCH 0/2] mm/vmstat: Reduce zone lock hold time when reading /proc/pagetypeinfo Michal Hocko
2019-10-24 16:16             ` Waiman Long
2019-10-23 12:42         ` [PATCH] " Qian Cai
2019-10-23 13:25         ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-10-22 21:59 ` Andrew Morton
2019-10-23  6:15   ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2019-10-23 14:30   ` Waiman Long
2019-10-23 14:48     ` Qian Cai
2019-10-23 15:01       ` Waiman Long
2019-10-23 15:05         ` Qian Cai
2019-10-23 22:30         ` Andrew Morton
2019-10-24  5:33           ` Qian Cai
2019-10-24  7:42             ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-24 11:11               ` Qian Cai
2019-10-24 13:38                 ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-24 14:55                   ` Qian Cai
2019-10-24  3:33         ` Feng Tang
2019-10-24  4:34           ` Qian Cai
2019-10-24  5:34             ` Feng Tang
2019-10-24 10:51               ` Qian Cai
2019-10-25  1:38                 ` Feng Tang
2019-10-23 15:03       ` Rafael Aquini
2019-10-23 15:51         ` Qian Cai

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