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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
Cc: Yang Shi <yang.shi@linux.alibaba.com>,
	kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com, ktkhai@virtuozzo.com,
	hannes@cmpxchg.org, hughd@google.com, shakeelb@google.com,
	rientjes@google.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: thp: move deferred split queue to memcg's nodeinfo
Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2019 16:30:30 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191007143030.GN2381@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <30421920-4fdb-767a-6ef2-60187932c414@suse.cz>

On Mon 07-10-19 16:19:59, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
> On 10/2/19 10:43 AM, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > On Wed 02-10-19 06:16:43, Yang Shi wrote:
> >> The commit 87eaceb3faa59b9b4d940ec9554ce251325d83fe ("mm: thp: make
> >> deferred split shrinker memcg aware") makes deferred split queue per
> >> memcg to resolve memcg pre-mature OOM problem.  But, all nodes end up
> >> sharing the same queue instead of one queue per-node before the commit.
> >> It is not a big deal for memcg limit reclaim, but it may cause global
> >> kswapd shrink THPs from a different node.
> >>
> >> And, 0-day testing reported -19.6% regression of stress-ng's madvise
> >> test [1].  I didn't see that much regression on my test box (24 threads,
> >> 48GB memory, 2 nodes), with the same test (stress-ng --timeout 1
> >> --metrics-brief --sequential 72  --class vm --exclude spawn,exec), I saw
> >> average -3% (run the same test 10 times then calculate the average since
> >> the test itself may have most 15% variation according to my test)
> >> regression sometimes (not every time, sometimes I didn't see regression
> >> at all).
> >>
> >> This might be caused by deferred split queue lock contention.  With some
> >> configuration (i.e. just one root memcg) the lock contention my be worse
> >> than before (given 2 nodes, two locks are reduced to one lock).
> >>
> >> So, moving deferred split queue to memcg's nodeinfo to make it NUMA
> >> aware again.
> >>
> >> With this change stress-ng's madvise test shows average 4% improvement
> >> sometimes and I didn't see degradation anymore.
> > 
> > My concern about this getting more and more complex
> > (http://lkml.kernel.org/r/20191002084014.GH15624@dhcp22.suse.cz) holds
> > here even more. Can we step back and reconsider the whole thing please?
> 
> What about freeing immediately after split via workqueue and also have a
> synchronous version called before going oom? Maybe there would be also
> other things that would benefit from this scheme instead of traditional
> reclaim and shrinkers?

That is exactly what we have discussed some time ago.

-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs


  reply	other threads:[~2019-10-07 14:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-01 22:16 Yang Shi
2019-10-02  8:43 ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-02 17:29   ` Yang Shi
2019-10-07 14:19   ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-10-07 14:30     ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2019-10-08 14:44       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2019-10-08 14:55         ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-08 23:09         ` Yang Shi

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