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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: Konstantin Khlebnikov <khlebnikov@yandex-team.ru>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] mm/swap: piggyback lru_add_drain_all() calls
Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2019 15:39:29 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191004133929.GN9578@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c1617cff-847f-4cbf-d314-0382a3e9233d@yandex-team.ru>

On Fri 04-10-19 16:32:39, Konstantin Khlebnikov wrote:
> On 04/10/2019 16.12, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > On Fri 04-10-19 16:09:22, Konstantin Khlebnikov wrote:
> > > This is very slow operation. There is no reason to do it again if somebody
> > > else already drained all per-cpu vectors while we waited for lock.
> > > 
> > > Piggyback on drain started and finished while we waited for lock:
> > > all pages pended at the time of our enter were drained from vectors.
> > > 
> > > Callers like POSIX_FADV_DONTNEED retry their operations once after
> > > draining per-cpu vectors when pages have unexpected references.
> > 
> > This describes why we need to wait for preexisted pages on the pvecs but
> > the changelog doesn't say anything about improvements this leads to.
> > In other words what kind of workloads benefit from it?
> 
> Right now POSIX_FADV_DONTNEED is top user because it have to freeze page
> reference when removes it from cache. invalidate_bdev calls it for same reason.
> Both are triggered from userspace, so it's easy to generate storm.
> 
> mlock/mlockall no longer calls lru_add_drain_all - I've seen here
> serious slowdown on older kernel.
> 
> There are some less obvious paths in memory migration/CMA/offlining
> which shouldn't be called frequently.

Can you back those claims by any numbers?
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs


  reply	other threads:[~2019-10-04 13:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-04 13:09 Konstantin Khlebnikov
2019-10-04 13:12 ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-04 13:32   ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2019-10-04 13:39     ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2019-10-04 14:06       ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2019-10-07 12:50         ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-05 19:35 ` Andrew Morton
2019-10-05 20:03   ` Konstantin Khlebnikov

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