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From: Hillf Danton <hdanton@sina.com>
To: Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@gmail.com>
Cc: Adric Blake <promarbler14@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Kirill Tkhai <ktkhai@virtuozzo.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	Daniel Jordan <daniel.m.jordan@oracle.com>,
	Yang Shi <yang.shi@linux.alibaba.com>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
	Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: WARNINGs in set_task_reclaim_state with memory cgroup andfullmemory usage
Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2019 21:05:16 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190824130516.2540-1-hdanton@sina.com> (raw)


On Sat, 24 Aug 2019 16:15:38 +0800 Yafang Shao wrote:
> 
> The memcg soft reclaim is called from kswapd reclam path and direct
> reclaim path,
> so why not pass the scan_control from the callsite in these two
> reclaim paths and use it in memcg soft reclaim ?
> Seems there's no specially reason that we must introduce a new
> scan_control here.
> 
To protect memcg from being over reclaimed?
Victim memcg is selected one after another in a fair way, and punished
by reclaiming one memcg a round no more than nr_to_reclaim ==
SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX pages. And so is the flip-flop from global to memcg
reclaiming. We can see similar protection activities in
commit a394cb8ee632 ("memcg,vmscan: do not break out targeted reclaim
without reclaimed pages") and
commit 2bb0f34fe3c1 ("mm: vmscan: do not iterate all mem cgroups for
global direct reclaim").

No preference seems in either way except for retaining
nr_to_reclaim == SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX and target_mem_cgroup == memcg.
> 
> I have checked the hisotry why this order check is introduced here.
> The first commit is 4e41695356fb ("memory controller: soft limit
> reclaim on contention"),
> but it didn't explained why.
> At the first glance it is reasonable to remove it, but we should
> understand why it was introduced at the first place.

Reclaiming order can not make much sense in soft-limit reclaiming
under the current protection.

Thanks to Adric Blake again.

Hillf



             reply	other threads:[~2019-08-24 13:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-08-24 13:05 Hillf Danton [this message]
2019-08-27 11:51 ` Yafang Shao
2019-08-27 13:29   ` WARNINGs in set_task_reclaim_state with memory cgroupandfullmemory usage Hillf Danton
2019-08-27 13:53     ` Michal Hocko

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