From: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
To: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] mm: workingset: replace IRQ-off check with a lockdep assert.
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2019 13:21:16 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190821112116.d4lejm6nai7uavcy@linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190213145656.GA25205@cmpxchg.org>
sorry, I somehow forgot about this…
On 2019-02-13 09:56:56 [-0500], Johannes Weiner wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 10:27:54AM +0100, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
> > On 2019-02-11 16:02:08 [-0500], Johannes Weiner wrote:
> > > > how do you define safe? I've been looking for dependencies of
> > > > __mod_lruvec_state() but found only that the lock is held during the RMW
> > > > operation with WORKINGSET_NODES idx.
> > >
> > > These stat functions are not allowed to nest, and the executing thread
> > > cannot migrate to another CPU during the operation, otherwise they
> > > corrupt the state they're modifying.
> >
> > If everyone is taking the same lock (like i_pages.xa_lock) then there
> > will not be two instances updating the same stat. The owner of the
> > (sleeping)-spinlock will not be migrated to another CPU.
>
> This might be true for this particular stat item, but they are general
> VM statistics. They're assuredly not all taking the xa_lock.
This one in particular does and my guess is that the interrupts are
disabled here because of xa_lock. So the question is why should the
interrupts be disabled? Is this due to the lock that should have been
acquired (and as such disable interrupts) _or_ because of the
*_lruvec_slab_state() operation.
> > > They are called from interrupt handlers, such as when NR_WRITEBACK is
> > > decreased. Thus workingset_node_update() must exclude preemption from
> > > irq handlers on the local CPU.
> >
> > Do you have an example for a code path to check NR_WRITEBACK?
>
> end_page_writeback()
> test_clear_page_writeback()
> dec_lruvec_state(lruvec, NR_WRITEBACK)
So with a warning in dec_lruvec_state() I found only a call path from
softirq (like scsi_io_completion() / bio_endio()). Having lockdep
annotation instead "just" preempt_disable() would have helped :)
> > > They rely on IRQ-disabling to also disable CPU migration.
> > The spinlock disables CPU migration.
> >
> > > > > I'm guessing it's because
> > > > > preemption is disabled and irq handlers are punted to process context.
> > > > preemption is enabled and IRQ are processed in forced-threaded mode.
> > >
> > > That doesn't sound safe.
> >
> > Do you have test-case or something I could throw at it and verify that
> > this still works? So far nothing complains…
>
> It's not easy to get the timing right on purpose, but we've seen in
> production what happens when you don't protect these counter updates
> from interrupts. See c3cc39118c36 ("mm: memcontrol: fix NR_WRITEBACK
> leak in memcg and system stats").
Based on the looking code I'm looking at, it looks fine. Should I just
resubmit the patch?
Sebastian
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-08-21 11:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-02-11 9:57 [PATCH] " Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-02-11 11:38 ` [PATCH v2] " Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-02-11 18:53 ` Johannes Weiner
2019-02-11 19:13 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-02-11 19:17 ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-02-11 19:41 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-02-11 21:02 ` Johannes Weiner
2019-02-13 9:27 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-02-13 14:56 ` Johannes Weiner
2019-08-21 11:21 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior [this message]
2019-08-21 15:21 ` Johannes Weiner
2019-02-11 17:07 ` [PATCH] " kbuild test robot
2019-02-11 17:37 ` kbuild test robot
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