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From: Hillf Danton <hdanton@sina.com>
To: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
Cc: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Mike Kravetz <mike.kravetz@oracle.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/3] mm, reclaim: make should_continue_reclaim perform dryrun detection
Date: Thu,  1 Aug 2019 11:16:33 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <295a37b1-8257-9b4a-b586-9a4990cc9d35@suse.cz> (raw)
Message-ID: <20190801031633.Y4GW2YtXQnnb-WbjqL8PxDroUmId5El6AOJE4bK5iso@z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190725080551.GB2708@suse.de>


On Wed, 31 Jul 2019 13:08:44 +0200 Vlastimil Babka wrote:
> 
> I agree this is an improvement overall, but perhaps the patch does too
> many things at once. The reshuffle is one thing and makes sense. The
> change of the last return condition could perhaps be separate. Also
> AFAICS the ultimate result is that when nr_reclaimed == 0, the function
> will now always return false. Which makes the initial test for
> __GFP_RETRY_MAYFAIL and the comments there misleading. There will no
> longer be a full LRU scan guaranteed - as long as the scanned LRU chunk
> yields no reclaimed page, we abort.
> 
Thanks Vlastimil.

We can drop the test for __GFP_RETRY_MAYFAIL imo after observing no
regression produced by the reshuffle combined with dryrun detection
for reasons that
1) such a full lru scan is too expensive a cost for kswapd to pay for
balancing a node. The kthread you see drops the costly order when
appropriate. Which makes the helper in question false.

2) it has been a while otoh that reclaimers play game with neither
the costly order nor __GFP_RETRY_MAYFAIL taken into account, see
commit 2bb0f34fe3c1 ("mm: vmscan: do not iterate all mem cgroups for
global direct reclaim") for instance.

Hillf


  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-08-01  3:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-24 17:50 [RFC PATCH 0/3] fix hugetlb page allocation stalls Mike Kravetz
2019-07-24 17:50 ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] mm, reclaim: make should_continue_reclaim perform dryrun detection Mike Kravetz
2019-07-25  8:05   ` Mel Gorman
2019-07-26  7:40     ` Hillf Danton
2019-07-26  8:12     ` Mel Gorman
2019-07-31 11:08     ` Vlastimil Babka [this message]
2019-07-31 12:25       ` Mel Gorman
2019-07-31 21:11       ` Mike Kravetz
2019-08-01  4:22         ` Hillf Danton
2019-08-01  8:44         ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-08-01  3:16       ` Hillf Danton
2019-07-24 17:50 ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] mm, compaction: use MIN_COMPACT_COSTLY_PRIORITY everywhere for costly orders Mike Kravetz
2019-07-25  8:06   ` Mel Gorman
2019-07-31 12:06   ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-07-31 20:30     ` Mike Kravetz
2019-08-01 13:01       ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-08-01 20:33         ` Mike Kravetz
2019-08-02 10:20           ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-08-02 12:05           ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-08-02 17:44             ` Mike Kravetz
2019-07-24 17:50 ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] hugetlbfs: don't retry when pool page allocations start to fail Mike Kravetz
2019-07-25  8:13   ` Mel Gorman
2019-07-25 17:15     ` Mike Kravetz
2019-07-25 22:43       ` Mel Gorman
2019-07-31 13:23       ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-07-31 21:13         ` Mike Kravetz

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