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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, mm-commits@vger.kernel.org,
	tj@kernel.org, guro@fb.com, dennis@kernel.org,
	chris@chrisdown.name,
	cgroups mailinglist <cgroups@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: + mm-consider-subtrees-in-memoryevents.patch added to -mm tree
Date: Thu, 16 May 2019 20:10:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190516180932.GA13208@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190516175655.GA25818@cmpxchg.org>

On Thu 16-05-19 13:56:55, Johannes Weiner wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 01:47:29PM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > On Tue 12-02-19 14:45:42, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > [...]
> > > From: Chris Down <chris@chrisdown.name>
> > > Subject: mm, memcg: consider subtrees in memory.events
> > > 
> > > memory.stat and other files already consider subtrees in their output, and
> > > we should too in order to not present an inconsistent interface.
> > > 
> > > The current situation is fairly confusing, because people interacting with
> > > cgroups expect hierarchical behaviour in the vein of memory.stat,
> > > cgroup.events, and other files.  For example, this causes confusion when
> > > debugging reclaim events under low, as currently these always read "0" at
> > > non-leaf memcg nodes, which frequently causes people to misdiagnose breach
> > > behaviour.  The same confusion applies to other counters in this file when
> > > debugging issues.
> > > 
> > > Aggregation is done at write time instead of at read-time since these
> > > counters aren't hot (unlike memory.stat which is per-page, so it does it
> > > at read time), and it makes sense to bundle this with the file
> > > notifications.
> > > 
> > > After this patch, events are propagated up the hierarchy:
> > > 
> > >     [root@ktst ~]# cat /sys/fs/cgroup/system.slice/memory.events
> > >     low 0
> > >     high 0
> > >     max 0
> > >     oom 0
> > >     oom_kill 0
> > >     [root@ktst ~]# systemd-run -p MemoryMax=1 true
> > >     Running as unit: run-r251162a189fb4562b9dabfdc9b0422f5.service
> > >     [root@ktst ~]# cat /sys/fs/cgroup/system.slice/memory.events
> > >     low 0
> > >     high 0
> > >     max 7
> > >     oom 1
> > >     oom_kill 1
> > > 
> > > As this is a change in behaviour, this can be reverted to the old
> > > behaviour by mounting with the `memory_localevents' flag set.  However, we
> > > use the new behaviour by default as there's a lack of evidence that there
> > > are any current users of memory.events that would find this change
> > > undesirable.
> > > 
> > > Link: http://lkml.kernel.org/r/20190208224419.GA24772@chrisdown.name
> > > Signed-off-by: Chris Down <chris@chrisdown.name>
> > > Acked-by: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
> > > Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
> > > Cc: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
> > > Cc: Roman Gushchin <guro@fb.com>
> > > Cc: Dennis Zhou <dennis@kernel.org>
> > > Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
> > 
> > FTR: As I've already said here [1] I can live with this change as long
> > as there is a larger consensus among cgroup v2 users. So let's give this
> > some more time before merging to see whether there is such a consensus.
> > 
> > [1] http://lkml.kernel.org/r/20190201102515.GK11599@dhcp22.suse.cz
> 
> It's been three months without any objections.

It's been three months without any _feedback_ from anybody. It might
very well be true that people just do not read these emails or do not
care one way or another.

> Can we merge this for
> v5.2 please? We still have users complaining about this inconsistent
> behavior (the last one was yesterday) and we'd rather not carry any
> out of tree patches.

Could you point me to those complains or is this something internal?
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs


  reply	other threads:[~2019-05-16 18:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20190212224542.ZW63a%akpm@linux-foundation.org>
2019-02-13 12:47 ` Michal Hocko
2019-05-16 17:56   ` Johannes Weiner
2019-05-16 18:10     ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2019-05-16 19:39       ` Johannes Weiner
2019-05-17 12:33         ` Michal Hocko
2019-05-17 13:00           ` Shakeel Butt
2019-05-22  5:30             ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2019-05-18  1:33           ` Johannes Weiner
2019-05-22  2:23             ` Andrew Morton
2019-05-22 15:44               ` Johannes Weiner
2019-05-17 13:00   ` Shakeel Butt
2019-05-17 19:04     ` Johannes Weiner

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