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From: Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov.dev@gmail.com>
To: Roman Gushchin <guroan@gmail.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	kernel-team@fb.com, Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>, Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>,
	david@fromorbit.com, Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org, Roman Gushchin <guro@fb.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] mm: reparent slab memory on cgroup removal
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 11:15:38 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190418081538.prspe27lqudvvu3u@esperanza> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190417215434.25897-1-guro@fb.com>

Hello Roman,

On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 02:54:29PM -0700, Roman Gushchin wrote:
> There is however a significant problem with reparenting of slab memory:
> there is no list of charged pages. Some of them are in shrinker lists,
> but not all. Introducing of a new list is really not an option.

True, introducing a list of charged pages would negatively affect
SL[AU]B performance since we would need to protect it with some kind
of lock.

> 
> But fortunately there is a way forward: every slab page has a stable pointer
> to the corresponding kmem_cache. So the idea is to reparent kmem_caches
> instead of slab pages.
> 
> It's actually simpler and cheaper, but requires some underlying changes:
> 1) Make kmem_caches to hold a single reference to the memory cgroup,
>    instead of a separate reference per every slab page.
> 2) Stop setting page->mem_cgroup pointer for memcg slab pages and use
>    page->kmem_cache->memcg indirection instead. It's used only on
>    slab page release, so it shouldn't be a big issue.
> 3) Introduce a refcounter for non-root slab caches. It's required to
>    be able to destroy kmem_caches when they become empty and release
>    the associated memory cgroup.

Which means an unconditional atomic inc/dec on charge/uncharge paths
AFAIU. Note, we have per cpu batching so charging a kmem page in cgroup
v2 doesn't require an atomic variable modification. I guess you could
use some sort of per cpu ref counting though.

Anyway, releasing mem_cgroup objects, but leaving kmem_cache objects
dangling looks kinda awkward to me. It would be great if we could
release both, but I assume it's hardly possible due to SL[AU]B
complexity.

What about reusing dead cgroups instead? Yeah, it would be kinda unfair,
because a fresh cgroup would get a legacy of objects left from previous
owners, but still, if we delete a cgroup, the workload must be dead and
so apart from a few long-lived objects, there should mostly be cached
objects charged to it, which should be easily released on memory
pressure. Sorry if somebody's asked this question before - I must have
missed that.

Thanks,
Vladimir


  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-04-18  8:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-04-17 21:54 Roman Gushchin
2019-04-17 21:54 ` [PATCH 1/5] mm: postpone kmem_cache memcg pointer initialization to memcg_link_cache() Roman Gushchin
2019-04-17 21:54 ` [PATCH 2/5] mm: generalize postponed non-root kmem_cache deactivation Roman Gushchin
2019-04-17 21:54 ` [PATCH 3/5] mm: introduce __memcg_kmem_uncharge_memcg() Roman Gushchin
2019-04-17 21:54 ` [PATCH 4/5] mm: rework non-root kmem_cache lifecycle management Roman Gushchin
2019-04-17 23:41   ` Shakeel Butt
2019-04-18  0:38     ` Roman Gushchin
2019-04-18  1:55       ` Shakeel Butt
2019-04-18  3:07         ` Roman Gushchin
2019-04-18 14:05           ` Shakeel Butt
2019-04-18 18:14             ` Roman Gushchin
2019-04-18 13:34   ` Christopher Lameter
2019-04-18 18:04     ` Roman Gushchin
2019-04-18 13:38   ` Christopher Lameter
2019-04-18 18:05     ` Roman Gushchin
2019-04-17 21:54 ` [PATCH 5/5] mm: reparent slab memory on cgroup removal Roman Gushchin
2019-04-18  8:15 ` Vladimir Davydov [this message]
2019-04-18 18:27   ` [PATCH 0/5] " Roman Gushchin

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